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Open RenskeVroomans opened this issue 8 years ago • 5 comments

One point of uncertainty: whether they actually used the two different epitopes (KK10 and KK10-L6M) for the tetramer (pentamer) sorting, or just the KK10. I cannot make it out from the methods or the main text, although common sense says both were used. http://jem.rupress.org/content/204/12/2813

RenskeVroomans avatar Dec 14 '16 16:12 RenskeVroomans

Isn't it in Table1 at the top?

mikessh avatar Dec 14 '16 16:12 mikessh

That indicates which virus epitope is present in the subjects, and I indeed took that as evidence that they also used these two different epitopes in their pentamer-sort. That is how I put it in the table. But they never actually say that explicitly. Leave it like this?

RenskeVroomans avatar Dec 14 '16 16:12 RenskeVroomans

But the sort was performed using tetramers, not pentamers, as the methods and table says. They used pentamers for mixed lymphocyte reactions: they incubated dendritic cells with these pentamers and used them for some sort of reaction with PBMC (doesn't make much sense to me as you usually mature DCs with a peptide, not peptide conjugated with MHC).

It seems most likely that they used just the KK10 tetramer for Table 1, and both KK10 WT and mutant KK10 for Figure 2 (two clones there). They say that the KK10 mut results in a different repertoire, but they specify only KK10WT in the title. So better set those from the Table 1 to KK10.

mikessh avatar Dec 14 '16 16:12 mikessh

In the methods they mix up tetramers and pentamers when describing the sorting of the T cells: Sorting of tetramer+ HIV-1–specific CD8+ T cell populations.

Fresh or frozen PBMC samples were stained with PE-labeled MHC class I pentamers refolded with epitopic HIV-1 peptides (ProImmune) and fluorophore-labeled CD8+ antibodies, followed by decontamination with 1:100 dilution of fixation solution A (Caltag). Tetramer+ CD8+ cells were sorted on a FACS Aria cell sorter (BD Biosciences) at 70 pounds per square inch. The purity of sorted cell populations was consistently >98%.

I'll change it to tetramers I guess.

2016-12-14 17:57 GMT+01:00 Mikhail Shugay [email protected]:

Ok. But the sort was performed using tetramers, not pentamers, as the methods and table says. They used pentamers for mixed lymphocyte reactions: they incubated dendritic cells with these pentamers and used them for some sort of reaction with PBMC (doesn't make much sense to me as you usually mature DCs with a peptide, not peptide conjugated with MHC). It seems most likely that they used just the KK10 tetramer for Table 1, and both KK10 WT and mutant KK10 for Figure 2 (two clones there).

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RenskeVroomans avatar Dec 14 '16 17:12 RenskeVroomans

OK!

mikessh avatar Dec 14 '16 17:12 mikessh