Mathieu Marques

Definitely, thanks for the clarification 👍

I just noticed, `ibuffer` doesn't use the header-line to display the column labels. Am I being too picky?

Sure, but would you still enable it by default before this is fixed?

For the sake consistency I wouldn't make it default. It strikes me as *unfinished* but that's just me and I may be too rigid at times. Your (plural) call.

Good catch. first time I actually use `ibuffer`. Nope, can't have multi-line mode-line and header-line.

Definitely not remove it by default. The users can toggle it from the menu "Options > Show/Hide". However having more modern icons, agreed.

Do keep in mind that unlike other editors mentioned here, Emacs is not used by programmers only. To me removing the toolbar is like removing GIMP's by default or Microsoft...

Does that mean we should ask the user on first startup what kind of usage he may have? Writing, programming, taking notes, managing files, something else? There would be different...

I didn't graduate in the field of UX so I can't really backup what I say. But it seems every UI I've come across (old or recent) offering a toolbar...

Isn't the goal of a toolbar to hold shortcuts for actions from the menus anyway?