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Some pdf's don't print.

Open Gajusbonus opened this issue 8 years ago • 15 comments

debug.zip Many pdf files print well, but the ones that my bank send me never seem to print through this driver.

Gajusbonus avatar Aug 11 '16 18:08 Gajusbonus

Hi, pls translate to english the text of error, given in your screen shot.

alysogorov avatar Aug 12 '16 12:08 alysogorov

also pls give which setting is for paper size(Letter, A4...or something), and resolution you used - 600 or 1200.

alysogorov avatar Aug 12 '16 13:08 alysogorov

It doesn t give any information out, it says:

There is a problem with the printing of document "PARKING, SCHIPHOL.PDF" , print job 635

Op 12-08-16 om 14:38 schreef alysogorov:

Hi, pls translate the text of error, given in your screen shot.

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Gajusbonus avatar Aug 12 '16 14:08 Gajusbonus

Paper size is set to A4

I do not find any resolution settings on the system (Linux Mint 17.3 with CUPS)

Op 12-08-16 om 15:15 schreef alysogorov:

also pls give which setting is for paper size(Letter, A4...or something), and resolution you used - 600 or 1200.

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Gajusbonus avatar Aug 12 '16 14:08 Gajusbonus

ok. thanks. i hope to solve this issue soon.

alysogorov avatar Aug 12 '16 17:08 alysogorov

Hi. I tested your file and it printed well. But, there seem there are some problems with access rights at creation of temporary directory for intermediate files. strange... it worked before. ok. if you have some of your files printed but this - not, please open driver file ricoh-sp1xx-drv.py comment line 55, and discomment line 56. If driver invoked, he will create DLOG.LOG near himself and dump there, what is he doing. but cups will call the driver as "lp" user, and DLOG.LOG will have "lp" user ownership, so to open it editor you'll need to open editor via sudo command. my dump when i'm printing your test file is - look at "printing : OK" at the end of the file - it says that driver exits without errors. and all went good.


Argument List:['/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/ricoh-sp1xx-drv.py', '356', 'alys-admin', 'Parking_Schiphol.pdf', '1', 'InputSlot=AUTO', 'number-up=1', 'MediaType=', 'PageSize=A4', 'Duplex=None', 'job-uuid=urn:uuid:82c3c7fd-ab1c-3bb7-4beb-89d1475ca366', 'job-originating-host-name=localhost', 'time-at-creation=1471371987', 'time-at-processing=1471371987'] Current Date is 2016/08/16 21:26:27 PageSize=A4 TERM:mkdir -p /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40 RETURN CODE=0 METHOD: DOING JOB SIMPLE TERM:gs -dQUIET -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sDEVICE=ps2write -sOutputFile=/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/%03d-page.ps -r600 - RETURN CODE=0 LAST PAGE = 2

doing page: /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/001-page.ps sending file header %-12345X@PJL @PJL SET TIMESTAMP=2016/08/16 21:26:27 @PJL SET FILENAME=Parking_Schiphol.pdf @PJL SET COMPRESS=JBIG @PJL SET USERNAME=alys-admin @PJL SET COVER=OFF @PJL SET HOLD=OFF TERM:gs -dQUIET -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pbmraw -sOutputFile=/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/page.pbm -r600 /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/001-page.ps RETURN CODE=0 sending page:/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/page.pbm TERM:pbmtojbg -p 72 -o 3 -m 0 -q /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/page.pbm /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/raster.jbig RETURN CODE=0 PAGE ORIGINAL DIMS=4958x7017 PAGE CROPPED DIMS=4958x7016 RASTER SIZE =43533 @PJL SET PAGESTATUS=START @PJL SET COPIES=1 @PJL SET MEDIASOURCE=AUTO @PJL SET MEDIATYPE=PLAINRECYCLE @PJL SET PAPER=A4 @PJL SET PAPERWIDTH=4958 @PJL SET PAPERLENGTH=7016 @PJL SET RESOLUTION=600 @PJL SET IMAGELEN=43533 raster data appended @PJL SET DOTCOUNT=777 @PJL SET PAGESTATUS=END TERM:rm /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/page.pbm RETURN CODE=0 sending file footer @PJL EOJ %-12345X printing: OK TERM:rm -rf /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40 RETURN CODE=0


here is an example of dump file if something went wrong -


Argument List:['/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/ricoh-sp1xx-drv.py', '358', 'alys-admin', 'Parking_Schiphol.pdf', '1', 'InputSlot=AUTO', 'number-up=1', 'MediaType=', 'PageSize=A4', 'Duplex=None', 'job-uuid=urn:uuid:d063aa89-2337-316f-559d-50f7a14406e5', 'job-originating-host-name=localhost', 'time-at-creation=1471372591', 'time-at-processing=1471372591'] Current Date is 2016/08/16 21:36:31 PageSize=A4 TERM:mkdir -p /tmp/ricoh_sp1xxx/437b13b7-dcdc-4e44-b200-1c45b2f95090 RETURN CODE=256 COMMAND ERROR:EXIT(1)


normally dump disabled for paranoids about security, to not leave an info - which file was printed last. finally. if some of your files are printed, but the file you sent here - not - enable dump and put it here. for me everything is working. my printer is Ricoh sp 111, may be you have some another printer? regards, alex.

alysogorov avatar Aug 16 '16 18:08 alysogorov

host somehow formats my text, i do not know how to deal with it, sorry

alysogorov avatar Aug 16 '16 18:08 alysogorov

Hi, strange thing doesn' t print. Manually created the file XXX.OUT and when I copy this to the printer: $ sudo cat XXX.OUT > /dev/usb/lp0 it asnwers: bash: /dev/usb/lp0: Permission denied

On 16-08-16 20:46, alysogorov wrote:

host somehow formats my text, i do not know how to deal with it, sorry

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Gajusbonus avatar Aug 17 '16 20:08 Gajusbonus

I created a file by invoking the driver: cat Parking_Schiphol.pdf| ./ricoh-sp1xx-drv.py PageSize=A4 > XXX.OUT

The DLOG file seems to be oke. It s in the attachment.

Greeting, Jef

On 16-08-16 20:43, alysogorov wrote:

Hi. I tested your file and it printed well. But, there seem there are some problems with access rights at creation of temporary directory for intermediate files. strange... it worked before. ok. if you have some of your files printed but this - not, please open driver file comment line 55, and discomment line 56. If driver invoked, he will create DLOG.LOG near himself and dump there, what is he doing. but cups will call the driver as "lp" user, and DLOG.LOG will have "lp" user ownership, so to open it editor you'll need to open editor via sudo command. my dump when i'm printing your test file is - look at "printing : OK" at the end of the file - it says that driver exits without errors. and all went good.


Argument List:['/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/ricoh-sp1xx-drv.py', '356', 'alys-admin', 'Parking_Schiphol.pdf', '1', 'InputSlot=AUTO', 'number-up=1', 'MediaType=', 'PageSize=A4', 'Duplex=None', 'job-uuid=urn:uuid:82c3c7fd-ab1c-3bb7-4beb-89d1475ca366', 'job-originating-host-name=localhost', 'time-at-creation=1471371987', 'time-at-processing=1471371987'] Current Date is 2016/08/16 21:26:27 PageSize=A4 TERM:mkdir -p /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40 RETURN CODE=0 METHOD: DOING JOB SIMPLE TERM:gs -dQUIET -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sDEVICE=ps2write -sOutputFile=/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/%03d-page.ps -r600 - RETURN CODE=0 LAST PAGE = 2

        doing page:
        /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/001-page.ps
        sending file header
        �%-12345X@PJL
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET TIMESTAMP=2016/08/16
        21:26:27
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET
        FILENAME=Parking_Schiphol.pdf
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET COMPRESS=JBIG
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET USERNAME=alys-admin
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET COVER=OFF
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET HOLD=OFF
        TERM:gs -dQUIET -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pbmraw
        -sOutputFile=/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/page.pbm
        -r600
        /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/001-page.ps
        RETURN CODE=0
        sending
        page:/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/page.pbm
        TERM:pbmtojbg -p 72 -o 3 -m 0 -q
        /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/page.pbm
        /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/raster.jbig
        RETURN CODE=0
        PAGE ORIGINAL DIMS=4958x7017
        PAGE CROPPED DIMS=4958x7016
        RASTER SIZE =43533
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET PAGESTATUS=START
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET COPIES=1
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET MEDIASOURCE=AUTO
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET MEDIATYPE=PLAINRECYCLE
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET PAPER=A4
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET PAPERWIDTH=4958
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET PAPERLENGTH=7016
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET RESOLUTION=600
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET IMAGELEN=43533
        raster data appended
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET DOTCOUNT=777
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET PAGESTATUS=END
        TERM:rm
        /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/page.pbm
        RETURN CODE=0
        sending file footer
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> EOJ
        �%-12345X
        printing: OK
        TERM:rm -rf
        /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40
        RETURN CODE=0

        ------------------------------------------------------------------------

here is an example of dump file if something went wrong -


Argument List:['/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/ricoh-sp1xx-drv.py', '358', 'alys-admin', 'Parking_Schiphol.pdf', '1', 'InputSlot=AUTO', 'number-up=1', 'MediaType=', 'PageSize=A4', 'Duplex=None', 'job-uuid=urn:uuid:d063aa89-2337-316f-559d-50f7a14406e5', 'job-originating-host-name=localhost', 'time-at-creation=1471372591', 'time-at-processing=1471372591'] Current Date is 2016/08/16 21:36:31 PageSize=A4 TERM:mkdir -p /tmp/ricoh_sp1xxx/437b13b7-dcdc-4e44-b200-1c45b2f95090 RETURN CODE=256 COMMAND ERROR:EXIT(1)


normally dump disabled for paranoids about security, to not leave an info - which file was printed last. finally. if some of your files are printed, but the file you sent here

  • not - enable dump and put it here. for me everything is working. my printer is Ricoh sp 111, may be you have some another printer? regards, alex.

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Gajusbonus avatar Aug 17 '16 20:08 Gajusbonus

Here is some output: $ *tail /var/log/cups/error_log * D [17/Aug/2016:22:11:30 +0200] cupsdMarkDirty(----S) D [17/Aug/2016:22:11:30 +0200] cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Printing jobs and dirty files", busy="Printing jobs and dirty files" D [17/Aug/2016:22:11:30 +0200] [Job 1] The following messages were recorded from 22:11:22 to 22:11:22 D [17/Aug/2016:22:11:30 +0200] [Job 1] Printer found with device ID: MFG:RICOH ;CMD:GDI;MDL:SP 112 DDST;CLS:PRINTER; Device URI: usb://RICOH/SP%20112%20DDST?serial=X025M633576 D [17/Aug/2016:22:11:30 +0200] [Job 1] End of messages D [17/Aug/2016:22:11:30 +0200] [Job 1] printer-state=3(idle) D [17/Aug/2016:22:11:30 +0200] [Job 1] printer-state-message="Filter failed" D [17/Aug/2016:22:11:30 +0200] [Job 1] printer-state-reasons=none D [17/Aug/2016:22:11:30 +0200] cupsd is not idle any more, canceling shutdown. D [17/Aug/2016:22:11:31 +0200] cupsd is not idle any more, canceling shutdown.

On 16-08-16 20:43, alysogorov wrote:

Hi. I tested your file and it printed well. But, there seem there are some problems with access rights at creation of temporary directory for intermediate files. strange... it worked before. ok. if you have some of your files printed but this - not, please open driver file comment line 55, and discomment line 56. If driver invoked, he will create DLOG.LOG near himself and dump there, what is he doing. but cups will call the driver as "lp" user, and DLOG.LOG will have "lp" user ownership, so to open it editor you'll need to open editor via sudo command. my dump when i'm printing your test file is - look at "printing : OK" at the end of the file - it says that driver exits without errors. and all went good.


Argument List:['/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/ricoh-sp1xx-drv.py', '356', 'alys-admin', 'Parking_Schiphol.pdf', '1', 'InputSlot=AUTO', 'number-up=1', 'MediaType=', 'PageSize=A4', 'Duplex=None', 'job-uuid=urn:uuid:82c3c7fd-ab1c-3bb7-4beb-89d1475ca366', 'job-originating-host-name=localhost', 'time-at-creation=1471371987', 'time-at-processing=1471371987'] Current Date is 2016/08/16 21:26:27 PageSize=A4 TERM:mkdir -p /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40 RETURN CODE=0 METHOD: DOING JOB SIMPLE TERM:gs -dQUIET -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sDEVICE=ps2write -sOutputFile=/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/%03d-page.ps -r600 - RETURN CODE=0 LAST PAGE = 2

        doing page:
        /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/001-page.ps
        sending file header
        �%-12345X@PJL
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET TIMESTAMP=2016/08/16
        21:26:27
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET
        FILENAME=Parking_Schiphol.pdf
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET COMPRESS=JBIG
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET USERNAME=alys-admin
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET COVER=OFF
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET HOLD=OFF
        TERM:gs -dQUIET -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pbmraw
        -sOutputFile=/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/page.pbm
        -r600
        /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/001-page.ps
        RETURN CODE=0
        sending
        page:/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/page.pbm
        TERM:pbmtojbg -p 72 -o 3 -m 0 -q
        /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/page.pbm
        /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/raster.jbig
        RETURN CODE=0
        PAGE ORIGINAL DIMS=4958x7017
        PAGE CROPPED DIMS=4958x7016
        RASTER SIZE =43533
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET PAGESTATUS=START
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET COPIES=1
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET MEDIASOURCE=AUTO
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET MEDIATYPE=PLAINRECYCLE
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET PAPER=A4
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET PAPERWIDTH=4958
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET PAPERLENGTH=7016
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET RESOLUTION=600
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET IMAGELEN=43533
        raster data appended
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET DOTCOUNT=777
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> SET PAGESTATUS=END
        TERM:rm
        /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40/page.pbm
        RETURN CODE=0
        sending file footer
        @PJL <https://github.com/PJL> EOJ
        �%-12345X
        printing: OK
        TERM:rm -rf
        /home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/aa5c3a91-ad9c-4347-9e0f-f07f2b8d2d40
        RETURN CODE=0

        ------------------------------------------------------------------------

here is an example of dump file if something went wrong -


Argument List:['/home/alys-admin/DIRS/RICOH/develop/ricoh-sp1xx-drv.py', '358', 'alys-admin', 'Parking_Schiphol.pdf', '1', 'InputSlot=AUTO', 'number-up=1', 'MediaType=', 'PageSize=A4', 'Duplex=None', 'job-uuid=urn:uuid:d063aa89-2337-316f-559d-50f7a14406e5', 'job-originating-host-name=localhost', 'time-at-creation=1471372591', 'time-at-processing=1471372591'] Current Date is 2016/08/16 21:36:31 PageSize=A4 TERM:mkdir -p /tmp/ricoh_sp1xxx/437b13b7-dcdc-4e44-b200-1c45b2f95090 RETURN CODE=256 COMMAND ERROR:EXIT(1)


normally dump disabled for paranoids about security, to not leave an info - which file was printed last. finally. if some of your files are printed, but the file you sent here

  • not - enable dump and put it here. for me everything is working. my printer is Ricoh sp 111, may be you have some another printer? regards, alex.

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Gajusbonus avatar Aug 17 '16 20:08 Gajusbonus

  1. if you got - permission denied for lp...it means that there is something wrong with your permission, but driver(if you got an output file of non zero size) works correctly. also you can redirect driver to a file, if you comment line 52 and discomment line 53. then you can "print" to the file. i use it for debugging, to not spend paper.
  2. where is your attachment? or i can't find it, or you missed it.
  3. i'm not specialist in cups diagnostics...but message - "filter failed" says that driver ended with not zero error code. cups names drivers as "filters". but if there was not zero error code, problem must be visible in driver dump - DLOG. it could be some permission problem for example.
  4. !!! There is one side effect on driver error. now temporary files are created at /tmp/ricoh_sp1xxx/ (see line 44,45,46 - where it can be modified), after print without errors, this dir has been deleted. but if error occured - driver exits without delete of this dir. If you printed via cups, it will be created with owner - lp. but if you manually run driver as user and driver failed - dir was created with owner "user", and it won't be deleted, if error occured. and if you try to print via cups again, driver will fail with "permission denied", because user lp tries to write to existing dir with owner - "user". DLOG will show it. to correct this, you must manually delete dir - /tmp/ricoh_sp1xxx. this error could have place only if you run driver from cups and manually from user session, and it fails.

alysogorov avatar Aug 17 '16 23:08 alysogorov

normally, my procedure of driver check is easy. 1.force the driver to create files DLOG.LOG(you know how) and DOUT.OUT(comment line 52 and discomment line 53). 2. just print document via cups. printer won't work, because file is redirected to DOUT.OUT. 3. check if DOUT has not zero size, and DLOG doesn't mention errors. 4. open DOUT in hex editor, to be sure that DOUT has something kinda "...12345X@PJL..." at the beginning, and "...@PJL EOJ..." at the end. if so - file is wellformed, and printer must accept it. regards, alex

alysogorov avatar Aug 17 '16 23:08 alysogorov

aahh. do not forget to delete manually the dir /tmp/ricoh_sp1xxx, if you're printing via cups, but it exists and has not owner-lp.

alysogorov avatar Aug 17 '16 23:08 alysogorov

Hello alysogorov,

After installing again and again, even with a fresh install of Linux, I still have this error message: filter failed.

So I have run out of good idea's and are using madlynx driver again.

Greeting,

Jef

Op 18-08-16 om 01:33 schreef alysogorov:

aahh. do not forget to delete manually the dir /tmp/ricoh_sp1xxx, if you're printing via cups, but it exists and has not owner-lp.

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Gajusbonus avatar Aug 25 '16 14:08 Gajusbonus

ok. if madlynx driver works well for you, then it is your choice. i cannot reproduce your error, because I can print your file without problems. Regards, Alex.

alysogorov avatar Aug 27 '16 23:08 alysogorov