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please change the flatpak icon
Purr Data is available via flatpak (great), but it's icon looks suspiciously identical to Pd's icon.
https://github.com/agraef/purr-data/blob/master/packages/linux_flatpak/net.purrdata.PurrData.svg
since Purr-Data is similar to Pd, but is not the same as Pd, I would like to ask you to fix the icon (hey: Purr has a great icon of it's own!).
this has become more of an issue since Pd(vanilla) now is also available as a flatpak application: https://flathub.org/apps/search?q=puredata
this is a reboot of https://github.com/flathub/net.purrdata.PurrData/issues/1 (which was opened in 2019(!), and it seems that there was even a thread on the mailinglist about this in the same year; it seems the question of the icon has stalled since then)
PS: i would have opened this directly on https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/, but it seems my account creation has not been accepted for a couple of days...
Oops. I didn't even know that there was a Purr Data flatpak out in the wild. @ssssam It seems that you committed this in 2019, can you please have a look? Or at least tell me what changes are needed? Is it enough to just change the svg icon in purr-data/packages/linux_flatpak/?
@ssssam, I converted our 128x128 png icon to svg, here it is:
Would that be good enough?
@agraef isn't this the icon of Pd-extended?
i think it would be great if https://flathub.org/apps/search?q=puredata showed 3 different application icons.
what's wrong with the cat?
updating the icon in the Git repo should be enough, yes. I think the ideal might be the cat overlayed ontop of the Pd extended logo ... I probably have that on a long-lost todo list somewhere..
I'm no artist. Ok, I'll report it upstream, maybe Jonathan can do something about it.
The cat icons we have are simply too small for that purpose. I vaguely recall that Joseph posted something like what @ssssam suggested quite a while ago, but I don't remember where or when, and I can't find that post in my mailbox either. :(
we would need a proper scalable SVG version of the icon.
- http://disis.music.vt.edu/pipermail/l2ork-dev/2019-November/002276.html
- http://disis.music.vt.edu/pipermail/l2ork-dev/2023-August/003989.html
I talked to Jonathan about this, and he thinks he still has at least a larger version of the cat icon that we can use.
here's an SVG generated from a cat image using autotrace
i'm no artist either (and while i kind of like the deconstructivst outcome, there's no obvious "design" reason for it; and of course it looks like it came right out of your favorite photoshop effect...)
Hey guys, I'm sorry to interrupt, but is this the real purr data organization's GitHub account?
but is this the real purr data organization's GitHub account?
Well, kind of. It's the official GH mirror of Jonathan's Gitlab where we keep all of our releases (Jonathan's own CI setup has been largely dysfunctional for some time, so I took over and created a CI setup here). It also has a GH page so that it becomes easier to find stuff.
@umlaeute Sorry for getting back so late, I haven't forgotten about the issue, and I actually talked to Jonathan about this during our GSoC and he promised to look into this at the time. But apparently he forgot about it, so I'll remind him again.
Ok @agraef so I want to contribute to purr data, so from where could I start?
@Baizkunthaz please check out the README for guidelines about contributing.
And please do not hijack a completely unrelated thread with your own agenda. If you think you need a more discussion-like interaction than a plain README, you can also open up your own issue.
(Note that I am not part of the purr-data project, so the above is just my very personal view. Don't let it keep you from contributing to purr-data)
Ok @umlaeute I am sorry for the inconvenience. Actually, I am new to open source, so that's why I asked; otherwise, my intentions weren't just to hijack the unrelated thread.
@Baizkunthaz: @umlaeute is right, this is not the right place. There's the DISIS mailing list (l2ork-dev, link is in the README), and you can contact me directly (aggraef at gmail.com). Make sure that you have a look at the codebase (it's complicated, and involves a lot of C/C++), and try to figure out which areas you could and would like to contribute to.
Unfortunately, Jonathan never sent me anything. I can only assume that either the svg originals have been lost or that he doesn't want to share them.
Anyway, to bring this ticket to some kind of resolution, I now replaced the vanilla icon in packages/linux_flatpak with our 128x128 png icon converted to svg, as I suggested earlier. Yes, this is the Pd-extended icon, but then so be it -- Pd-extended has been dead since 2014 and even puredata.info says that you shouldn't use it anymore. :) Sorry folks, but that's the best I can do.
I didn't touch any of the other stuff in packages/linux_flatpak, as I'm not familiar with flatpak and have no time to learn it either -- too much other things to do, and live is short.
@ssssam I see that you're still updating the package on flathub, could you please update the icon in that package with packages/linux_flatpak/net.purrdata.PurrData.svg? That would be much appreciated. Also, I'd really appreciate it if you could send me a PR to update the contents of packages/linux_flatpak with what you have on flathub some time. And I'd be really very, very thankful if you could add some more elaborate instructions to the README there so that even an idiot like me can figure out how to build the thing locally. ;-) Because the the instructions there don't work for me.
note that there is a Pd-extended package available on flathub (which of course uses the Pd-extended SVG) : https://flathub.org/apps/info.puredata.Pd-extended
i agree that Pd-extended is dead and probably should be left there. i have no idea why @eighthave resurrected just for the flathub packages...
Yes, I know. But until a graphic artist steps in and helps me out with this, it's the best I can do.
Ok, I just gave it another whirl, using small_cat.png with added transparency as a base. Here's how that looks like when placed above the extended icon:
Not too shabby... Or how about this:
The latter one is probably too bad in resolution, but the former might do the job. Opinions?
Hey all! Love to see Pd going strong! I put Pd-extended up on Flathub for anyone who needs it for projects that were built with it. I personally use it, for example. I have no plans of making any other packages, e.g. macOS, Windows, etc.
The latter one is probably too bad in resolution, but the former might do the job. Opinions?
how about replacing the [bng] with the cat?
Hi @eighthave, thanks for stopping by! I didn't know that it is you who maintains that flatpak. It's amazing that you can still run Pd-extended that way on a modern system. It does indeed run on my Manjaro system running Pipewire, even Jack audio and MIDI work fine. Gem, zexy, and pdp won't load, however, but I guess that this is because they don't seem to be included in the package AFAICT.
Ok, I wasn't aware that pd-extended was still being used that much, but it now seems all the more important that we change Purr Data's flathub icon to something that's easily distinguishable from both vanilla and extended.
how about replacing the [bng] with the cat?
Not sure how you imagine that to look like, but in any case I'm not capable of doing it. :) So I went with that small_cat in extended icon design instead. I've just committed that in rev. https://github.com/agraef/purr-data/commit/b0f0e45ad387afc66fd11d843279ef1204039351.
I'll still have to rely on Sam to change the icon on his Flathub package. @ssssam? Here's that link to the updated svg file again: https://github.com/agraef/purr-data/blob/testing/packages/linux_flatpak/net.purrdata.PurrData.svg
how about replacing the [bng] with the cat?
Not sure how you imagine that to look like, but in any case I'm not capable of doing it. :)
Me probably neither.
Do you have the small cat as a "real" SVG as well? (It seems that this is currently just a PNG/bitmap embedded in an SVG, but the design looks as if it could easily be done in pure vector graphics)
Ok, I wasn't aware that pd-extended was still being used that much
I don't think it is used "that much" (without having any numbers, my gut feeling tells me that most downloads on flathub are probably mistakes, as it is more shiny, and more "extended" than the other options (vanilla, purr, l2ork)), but I guess it makes sense from a software (that is: Pd project) preservation POV.
It seems that this is currently just a PNG/bitmap embedded in an SVG
That's what it is. As I said, I don't have any of Jonathan's original vector images, so I took the small_cat.bmp from the win64_inno folder, added transparent background in the GIMP, exported that to png, imported that png in Inkscape, and finally saved it as an svg. That kind of workflow works best for me, I know that there are online png->svg converters but the ones I know are all rubbish. :)