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Improve the design of the uni6530-JP (攰) glyph

Open Marcus98T opened this issue 7 months ago • 3 comments

This is one of the few extra JP glyphs by Iwata for which it's not well designed (there's quite a bit of space between the components), I almost thought it was a CN glyph designed by Changzhou Sinotype. Screenshot 2023-12-05 at 22 48 25

Here is my rough mockup of what the glyph should look like: Screenshot 2023-12-05 at 22 38 50

ExtraLight master (the faint grey outlines are the original outlines): Screenshot 2023-12-05 at 23 06 58

Heavy master (the faint grey outlines are the original outlines, I even thickened the stems a bit): Screenshot 2023-12-05 at 23 07 11

Marcus98T avatar Dec 05 '23 14:12 Marcus98T

The comparison screenshots have different sizes, so it’s difficult to see what you want to convey.

Please make a gif animation so the before-after is more clearly visible – thanks.

frankrolf avatar Dec 05 '23 16:12 frankrolf

I have reported similar design issues before, but this is the first time I am asked about making a more accurate gif comparison.

If that's the case, I will have to list some of those other design issues I've posted or commented on, and do the same to them over the coming days so the design team can probably improve on those glyphs:

Sans

  • #380
  • https://github.com/adobe-fonts/source-han-sans/issues/398#issuecomment-1729274394 (the comment where I made a mockup of how an adjusted restored v1 JP glyph of 笝 (U+7B1D) should look like)
  • #403
  • #404
  • #426

Serif

  • https://github.com/adobe-fonts/source-han-serif/issues/180#issuecomment-1569586970 (the comment where I asked to add a decorative axe for 抆 (U+6286))

In addition to the gif comparison, should I give you the UFO files containing my fix for the affected glyphs?

The reason is that I am using Glyphs, and while there's no build instructions for variable sources for Sans at the moment, it is what I am working on based off the unofficial build instructions, and unfortunately it seems that Glyphs is not the software to make such a complex font like this, but at least it can export UFO outlines of some ideographs for further processing.

Also see this link: https://github.com/adobe-fonts/source-han-sans/discussions/453

Apologies because I'm not a technical person and I wish to learn how to fork the font as well, although that is not the scope of this issue.

Marcus98T avatar Dec 05 '23 16:12 Marcus98T

Please make a gif animation so the before-after is more clearly visible – thanks.

Here you go, I hope this gif comparison graphic that I did in Photoshop works.

Extralight uni6530_compare_EL

Regular uni6530_compare_R

Heavy uni6530_compare_H

Please let me know so I can update my other issues with the same comparison template (and possibly providing the UFO source files). Thank you very much.

Marcus98T avatar Dec 05 '23 17:12 Marcus98T