Yellow-Dog-Man
Turning TAA On Then Off Causes Transparency Issues In VR
Describe the bug?
When running Resonite in VR, turning the AA setting to TAA and then off, followed by scaling yourself, causes transparency sorting of materials to break until TAA is turned back on and off again. This doesn't seem to affect desktop.
To Reproduce
- Start Resonite in VR
- Turn TAA on under graphics settings
- Immediately switch AA to off (right arrow from the TAA setting)
- Scale yourself, I find that scaling smaller works best
- Play around with things that have transparency such as glass materials and UIX) and see how they tend to not work well anymore.
- Scaling yourself more can adjust the severity of the issues
- Turn TAA on and back off to fix the issues, until you scale yourself again.
Expected behavior
Transparency sorting should work properly, or TAA shouldn't even be available in VR in the first place given it's generally broken in VR.
Screenshots
Note that the inspector in this picture is BEHIND the avatar, yet renders as if it's in front, yet the transparent glasses, eye gloss orbs, and bulb of a devtool are showing up on top of it desperately from the opaque parts of their objects. The legs are also showing transparency issues with the ground; the entire avatar is raised into the air above the ground.
Also, pictures taken via in-game finger camera came out normal, I had to use a screenshot of the desktop window to show this.
Resonite Version Number
Beta 2024.10.4.923
What Platforms does this occur on?
Windows
What headset if any do you use?
Meta Quest Pro
Log Files
BONFIRE - 2024.10.4.923 - 2024-10-05 19_20_28.log
Additional Context
Readun and Shifty mentioned this issue in #1752 however it doesn't seem a ticket for it was opened then, sorry if I just didn't manage to find it!
Reporters
Myself (shrikealvaron) Readun (in issue #1752)
I've had this happen at random with user scaling without touching my graphics settings. Glad there's a proper reproduction now, hopefully knocking this one out could fix the random case too.
Ah, this bug. I'm surprised I can't find a ticket for this either. Yeah, just cycling past TAA in the aliasing options causes the rendering orders to become slightly unstable and randomly flip until you relaunch the game. Or cycle past TAA again.
No idea what causes it, but it has at least given me some goofy pics.
Hmm... Does anyone actually actively use TAA in VR?
The quickest solution is to just disallow TAA being used while in VR, since it doesn't seem to play nicely with it. The implementation used is 3rd party and I don't think it'd be worth for us spending time hunting down what causes the bug with it while in VR.
No one is likely using it because of the rendering order issues, but when I tried it it was giving better anti-aliasing iirc.
I imagine we might have people that would use it if it functioned correctly- but if we aren't going to invest time into fixing it right now, the best we can / should do is disabling it in VR, yeah, @Frooxius.
As-is once it is activated it breaks rendering even after it is switched away from, requiring the user to restart Resonite- so at the least preventing it from being selected in VR should stop the rendering issues it creates. Down the line if we decide we want to explore fixing / replacing it, then we could do so and re-enable that.
Yeah I feel like this option shouldn't be accessible in VR if it breaks everything.
yeah just had a new user show up and accidnetly trigger this bug, id say it shouldnt be avalible in vr, maybe the content team could make a special edit to the selector in the settings to dissalow it in vr?
Hmm... Does anyone actually actively use TAA in VR?
The quickest solution is to just disallow TAA being used while in VR, since it doesn't seem to play nicely with it. The implementation used is 3rd party and I don't think it'd be worth for us spending time hunting down what causes the bug with it while in VR.
okay so i think this is a great option. i also did a small survey on everyone on my friends list (that replied) + all open sessions and this is my results 27 off 17 fxaa 0 smaa 0 ctaa 0 taa
I really do think that nuking it for vr is the best option. And i hope it gets implimented, because i see multiple new users a week hit taa in vr and then ya gotta tell em "yeah you just gotta reboot the entire game real quick, ya fucked it up by passing by that setting" and it kinda sucks and puts a bad taste in their mouth (atleast it would for me)