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iBook G4 Mouse not showing

Open ojt1998 opened this issue 1 year ago • 14 comments

Hi there,

I’ve used the latest released iso to install NT4 on an iBook G4. I’ve followed the setup steps and selected no mouse but unfortunately it doesn’t seem to have then reactivated the mouse at the gui part of setup or once on the desktop.

Have I missed something?

ojt1998 avatar Oct 24 '24 16:10 ojt1998

Which iBook G4 is this (PowerBookx,x)?

Can I see the Open Firmware device tree?

Wack0 avatar Oct 24 '24 16:10 Wack0

It’s the Powerbook6,7

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ojt1998 avatar Oct 24 '24 16:10 ojt1998

ok, can I see the full device tree? with just devalias output I can't be 100% sure.

under open firmware:

dev /
ls

Basically there are two possible scenarios here:

  • keyboard is ADB but mouse is USB, mouse won't work until USB support happens;
  • mouse is ADB but shows as some other device which will need driver support

Wack0 avatar Oct 24 '24 19:10 Wack0

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ojt1998 avatar Oct 24 '24 19:10 ojt1998

interesting, seems there's two USB mice present (one on a hub with a keyboard), yet ADB keyboard is present. (as well as ADB mouse)

evidently of those, ADB keyboard works but not mouse.

Interesting that ADB keyboard works even though USB keyboard is present. I'm going to say mouse won't work on this system until USB support happens.

Wack0 avatar Oct 24 '24 20:10 Wack0

No worries - just my luck 😂

I tried booting on my Powerbook G4 but it doesn’t load into firmware and gets stuck on the initial step…

I shall keep waiting 😅

ojt1998 avatar Oct 24 '24 20:10 ojt1998

that would be a different issue. where does it get stuck? on a black screen? and what PowerBookx,x is that?

Wack0 avatar Oct 24 '24 20:10 Wack0

More relevant to this issue, I've used NT without a mouse quite a bit (never did get working mouse on my Wii port for instance), and NT is somewhat usable without a mouse, just annoying to get around with just keyboard shortcuts and CLI, etc.

Wack0 avatar Oct 24 '24 20:10 Wack0

It’s a PowerBook 5,6

Looking at the device tree there isn’t adb so that is likely the cause of the hang. I did assume that earlier as the hang is at “Init adb…”

ojt1998 avatar Oct 24 '24 20:10 ojt1998

More relevant to this issue, I've used NT without a mouse quite a bit (never did get working mouse on my Wii port for instance), and NT is somewhat usable without a mouse, just annoying to get around with just keyboard shortcuts and CLI, etc.

Yeah I managed to get office 97 installed but like you say it’s a bit of a pain!

ojt1998 avatar Oct 24 '24 20:10 ojt1998

Looking at the device tree there isn’t adb so that is likely the cause of the hang. I did assume that earlier as the hang is at “Init adb…”

that one's probably waiting forever polling PMU interrupt status looking for an ADB interrupt that never arrives. maybe I should add a timeout or something to that, although without working USB support it's not like that'll do much.

Wack0 avatar Oct 24 '24 20:10 Wack0

I’ve done some digging on the iBook and it looks as though the trackpad is on adb but the usb mouse has a higher number - could that be why NT doesn’t detect it?

ojt1998 avatar Oct 24 '24 20:10 ojt1998

nope, the higher ID for mouse is intended and expected. the Open Firmware implementation on these systems when creating ADB device in the device tree does blindly create entries for keyboard and mouse even if one or other doesn't really exist.

Wack0 avatar Oct 25 '24 16:10 Wack0

The late model iBook G4's (that's models A1133 and A1134) have multi-touch trackpads which are USB, therefore will not be supported by NT at this time.

As far as I know this goes for any PowerBook that advertises 2 finger scrolling, including late model Als

WamWooWam avatar Oct 27 '24 16:10 WamWooWam