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verification plan-beam technique error

Open patm95 opened this issue 5 years ago • 16 comments

Hello all. Our verification plan script has been running pretty well. However, we periodically get an error: "The Beam technique does not match the technique in BeamParameters". Has anyone ran into this? We only use 6X flattened beam for IMRT here and only have one machine. For one particular patient, we got this error on the initial plan, but not the boost. In every case, we can create a verification plan manually and it QAs fine.

patm95 avatar Mar 16 '20 18:03 patm95

Hi. I also get the same error in the verification plans using the script. Truebeam 6x, 6fff, 10fff, 15x is our configuration, but not sure if the error occurs for all the energies. I have to check that point. Regards.

avalgoma avatar Mar 16 '20 21:03 avalgoma

Interesting. For what it's worth our machine is a clinac iX. Glad to know that I am not the only one with this problem. If no one has found a solution to this, I may start poking around on this in my spare time.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 4:09 PM avalgoma [email protected] wrote:

Hi. I also get the same error in the verification plans using the script. Truebeam 6x, 6fff, 10fff, 15x is our configuration, but not sure if the error occurs for all the energies. I have to check that point. Regards.

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patm95 avatar Mar 17 '20 01:03 patm95

Guys, maybe the code being so simple is leading to some problems. I did some separation of concerns, and it is working fine. I step into this technique error in #53 , maybe it has to do with the last tag (fluencemodeid)

joecastelo avatar Mar 17 '20 11:03 joecastelo

But I only tried with NovalisTX 6X 6X-SRS and TrueBeam 6X-FFF 6X

joecastelo avatar Mar 17 '20 11:03 joecastelo

Thank you Joao. I will try this and report back.

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But I only tried with NovalisTX 6X 6X-SRS and TrueBeam 6X-FFF 6X

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patm95 avatar Mar 18 '20 15:03 patm95

@patm95 and @avalgoma

Do you guys tried to add beams with dose rate different than 600 ? When I add any beam they always come with 600 MU/min independent wheter I choose the right externalmachineparameters

joecastelo avatar Mar 27 '20 00:03 joecastelo

Our FFF has only 1400 DRate, and it somehow changes to 600. and this dose rate does not even exists....

joecastelo avatar Mar 27 '20 00:03 joecastelo

The same happens for our 6X SRS with dose rate 1000, maybe your errors are being caused becaused of the different dose rate? Does halcyon has a 600 MU/min Dose Rate.

If I try to add the beam for 6X-FFF or SRS with dose rate 600 it wont let me, but i put 1400 or 1000 and suddenly after creation it turns into 600 MU/min. Man I just can't believe. Tell me I'm crazy hahaha

joecastelo avatar Mar 27 '20 00:03 joecastelo

Yes, Halcyon has a 600 MU/min Dose Rate.

However, imagine a plan in which control points indicate 600 UM/min. Well, the treated plan has nothing to do with those 600 UM/min.

It appeas that the important point from the Halcyon point of view is MU/degree, not UM/min nor gantry speed.

-- Agus

avalgoma avatar Mar 27 '20 12:03 avalgoma

Yeah it does make sense, the MU/degree are always right, but the dose rate problem is tricky. The beam has its dose rate, defining the max dose rate. Regarding VMAT is OK but CRT makes no sense that dose rate is not right.

joecastelo avatar Mar 27 '20 13:03 joecastelo

We always use the 600 rep rate. And always use 6x flattened beam. I still have not identified what exactly was causing our error.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 8:07 AM Joao Castelo [email protected] wrote:

Yeah it does make sense, the MU/degree are always right, but the dose rate problem is tricky. The beam has its dose rate, defining the max dose rate. Regarding VMAT is OK but CRT makes no sense that dose rate is not right.

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patm95 avatar Mar 27 '20 15:03 patm95

Did you try to create beams with other dose rates? Just to check if is only my problem

joecastelo avatar Mar 27 '20 16:03 joecastelo

I just tested with other dose rates on my problem plan. It would create the verification plan on other dose rates, but not with a dose rate of 600. I basically just copied the plan and modified the dose rate and reran the script. Very odd.

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Did you try to create beams with other dose rates? Just to check if is only my problem

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patm95 avatar Apr 01 '20 16:04 patm95

But are you managing to change the beam dose rate??

joecastelo avatar Apr 01 '20 18:04 joecastelo

Oh no I am not trying to change the dose rate. Just basically copying the beam parameters from the clinical beam to the QA beam.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:51 PM Joao Castelo [email protected] wrote:

But are you managing to change the beam dose rate??

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patm95 avatar Apr 04 '20 15:04 patm95