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[TF2] A party will always have the majority of votes in a kick vote. This needs to be addressed

Open Ashetf2 opened this issue 3 years ago • 6 comments

A party of 6 members will always have the majority of votes. Imagine a party of 6 cheaters. If a player starts a kick vote against one of them, the party will defend him and there's no way to kick the accussed player. This will lead to the kick vote to fail and next, the party starting a kick vote against the player, and they will ALWAYS win.

My suggestion to deal with this issue is:

  • When a vote starts, the vote automatically counts 1 extra vote in favor/against of the accussed. Members of a party can't vote in a vote started by/against a member of the party.
  • Show in the scoreboard if a player is in a party.

Ashetf2 avatar Jun 20 '22 18:06 Ashetf2

The opposite is true if you have a full party to be able to always kick bots/cheaters. I don't see why this would need to change.

jh34ghu43gu avatar Jun 22 '22 01:06 jh34ghu43gu

The opposite is true if you have a full party to be able to always kick bots/cheaters. I don't see why this would need to change.

  1. Bot parties
  2. Cheaters/Toxic players parties that focuses a single person (youtuber/streamer) Maybe another extra vote would be better.

Ashetf2 avatar Jun 22 '22 02:06 Ashetf2

I still don't see why this warrants punishing the opposite use case, of which I (personally) see more of that legit use than the malicious use.

Not to mention it would be incredibly easy to just disband the party before calling a vote. Not like staying in a party after getting in the match prevents auto-balancing and a lot of these people are communicating 3rd party (discord etc..) anyway.

Showing people in parties on the scoreboard may be nice but I'm not sure how you'd prevent 12 parties of 2 from looking awful, especially with the aforementioned lack of autobalance protection meaning it'd be possible to have people on opposite teams in the same party. Probably would also lead to more spite kicking; if you can see a pocket medic was in a party with the pocket that is stomping your team just got auto balanced then it makes sense for a lot of people to want to kick them, since the stomper would more than likely req.

jh34ghu43gu avatar Jun 23 '22 11:06 jh34ghu43gu

@Yetoo1 what do you mean?

Ashetf2 avatar Jun 23 '22 22:06 Ashetf2

@Ashetf2 @jh34ghu43gu Sorry, I responded too fast and thought it was purposely bad reasoning. Though, I think parties could be color coded in the scoreboard.

Yetoo1 avatar Jun 23 '22 22:06 Yetoo1

Not to mention it would be incredibly easy to just disband the party before calling a vote.

This is a very late response but: Parties cannot be disbanded in Casual. They remain as a party until the match finishes

Showing people in parties on the scoreboard may be nice but I'm not sure how you'd prevent 12 parties of 2 from looking awful

A match of 6 parties is probably not possible in Casual

Ashetf2 avatar Sep 29 '22 05:09 Ashetf2