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New Turing domain: please visit turinglang.org

Open fredcallaway opened this issue 1 year ago • 14 comments

Go here: https://turing.ml/v0.22/tutorials/ and click any of the sidebar links (except linear regression which works) and you'll get routed back to the main page.

fredcallaway avatar Jul 16 '23 18:07 fredcallaway

This is the old webpage (AFAIK nobody has access to) which also only contains old and outdated docs and tutorials. The Turing docs and tutorials are hosted at turinglang.org nowadays.

devmotion avatar Jul 16 '23 18:07 devmotion

Oh, that's good to know! I don't suppose there's any way to have turing.ml point to turinglang.org (really, no one has access to that site?) If you google "turing julia" you get turing.ml so I imagine many people will end up there :\

fredcallaway avatar Jul 17 '23 01:07 fredcallaway

Agreed. turing.ml is the first result for me and turinglang.org is the last on the first page. Most people are going to land on the old site to find outdated information, and many will think its an abandoned or poorly maintained project. A redirect would be good if possible.

itsdfish avatar Jul 18 '23 19:07 itsdfish

AFAIK unfortunately really nobody has access to the old turing.ml domain which means it's impossible to add a redirect.

devmotion avatar Jul 18 '23 19:07 devmotion

Wait, how did we lose the domain?

cpfiffer avatar Jul 26 '23 19:07 cpfiffer

I have no idea :shrug:

devmotion avatar Jul 26 '23 22:07 devmotion

It was registered with https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en. The freenom service stopped functioning a few months ago. Their customer service is not responding to requests. If anyone has a way to claim the domain back, let me know.

yebai avatar Jul 27 '23 18:07 yebai

I did a little digging -- Freenom was sued by Meta a little bit ago. They suspended new domain signups and may be difficult to reach for the forseeable future.

Additionally, it looks like the .ml TLDs are kind of a mess anyway, since they're the Mali TLD and Mali decided to give them out for free?

Perhaps we can find a way to get GitHub to stop serving the files to them. Or are the files cached at the provider somewhere?

cpfiffer avatar Jul 28 '23 01:07 cpfiffer

Some links are broken on the current website too. For example, in the Guide page, the link to the API is https://turinglang.org/v0.28/docs/using-turing/guide/%7B%7Bsite.baseurl%7D%7D/docs/library. It seems like {{site.baseurl}} was escaped to %7B%7Bsite.baseurl%7D%7D.

carolfs avatar Sep 03 '23 16:09 carolfs

It was registered with https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en. The freenom service stopped functioning a few months ago. Their customer service is not responding to requests. If anyone has a way to claim the domain back, let me know.

Have you tried contacting Google to have it removed? It should be possible to take it down, since it's a copyright violation for Freenom to keep the website up after you asked them to take it down.

ParadaCarleton avatar Sep 22 '23 00:09 ParadaCarleton

The page seems to be served by cloudflare (nameservers audrey.ns.cloudflare.com and wilson.ns.cloudflare.com according to a lookup), maybe the old content is just cached there and there's no intentional copyright violation (the purpose of which I wouldn't understand anyway)?

devmotion avatar Sep 22 '23 06:09 devmotion

I did a bit of digging as I was curious about this... it seems that Freenom lost management rights to the .ml and .ga ccTLDs around the time this issue was raised. Now, .ml is administered by the Malian government via their ICT agency AGETIC. There are some contact details for the .ml ccTLD found on the IANA Delegation Record and the NIC itself. Not sure if you'd have any lucky if you tried to reach out to them directly, @yebai.

mosullivan93 avatar Jan 02 '24 05:01 mosullivan93

For clarity, we have exhausted all options to regain access to the old domain turing.ml without success. We have also reached out to the new domain name owner but couldn't get a response.

yebai avatar May 13 '24 13:05 yebai