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App rebranding

Open Tunous opened this issue 5 years ago • 64 comments

A lot of people didn't like the name Dank for the app. Perhaps it's a good time to change the name to something which would sound more professional? I personally very like the name Seek which someone shared in dank's subreddit previously but I'm open to other ideas.

@saket are you ok with this, or maybe you have other suggestions? Also while I have a chance do you have any idea how we could work out to make the app available on the play store? I technically could create my own signing keys and upload them under my account (package name would change with rebranding to avoid conflict) but it kind of feels weird to have my name as the developer since you've made almost all of the work with it. (I can contact you somewhere else if you prefer)

Tunous avatar Jan 11 '19 18:01 Tunous

A lot of people didn't like the name Dank for the app. Perhaps it's a good time to change the name to something which would sound more professional?

Let me think about this. Re-branding the original repository will be better so that all forks receive the updates.

Also while I have a chance do you have any idea how we could work out to make the app available on the play store?

I have started considering pulling your changes upstream. It makes me so happy to see you all making constant bug fixes and feature additions. I did not expect this all. Let me see if I can afford doing this actively. If it works out, I'll keep uploading the updates. In the meanwhile, could you please upload the releases on Github?

but it kind of feels weird to have my name as the developer since you've made almost all of the work with it.

We can have the name of all major contributors in the about screen.

saket avatar Jan 11 '19 19:01 saket

Let me think about this. Re-branding the original repository will be better so that all forks receive the updates.

Yes, that would be the best option.

I have started considering pulling your changes upstream. It makes me so happy to see you all making constant bug fixes and feature additions.

That sounds great! I hope that you'll decide to do it 😀

Let me see if I can afford doing this actively. If it works out, I'll keep uploading the updates. In the meanwhile, could you please upload the releases on Github?

Definitely, my aim was to make as much as possible work automatically. One of the things I did is setup CircleCI (https://circleci.com/gh/Tunous/Dank). The config file I created includes jobs for building debug version of the app and also a job for uploading them to GitHub releases on each tag push to repository. It already works correctly in my fork. The same thing can be done with release builds. It's also possible to automatically publish them to alpha channel on Play Store with help of Gradle plugins.

With all of that it would be possible to create a release by just pushing a tag to repository and it would land in Google Play alpha channel (or other depending on config)

Tunous avatar Jan 11 '19 19:01 Tunous

About the name, perhaps new name could be cosmos/astronomy oriented? I do like the name Apollo for the iOS client and Snoo is an alien so perhaps Dank should also follow that lead. Good I did not start working on new app icon then.

dotvhs avatar Jan 11 '19 19:01 dotvhs

Definitely, my aim was to make as much as possible work automatically. One of the things I did is setup CircleCI (https://circleci.com/gh/Tunous/Dank). The config file I created includes jobs for building debug version of the app and also a job for uploading them to GitHub releases on each tag push to repository.

This looks good. I'll import it when possible.

saket avatar Jan 12 '19 14:01 saket

Alright let's do this: https://github.com/saket/Dank/pull/6

@Tunous please keep committing to your project. Once I've cherry-picked everything, we can move the contributions to the main repository and unarchive it. Can't believe I'm doing this.

saket avatar Jan 12 '19 14:01 saket

A lot of people didn't like the name Dank for the app. Perhaps it's a good time to change the name to something which would sound more professional? I personally very like the name Seek which someone shared in dank's subreddit previously but I'm open to other ideas.

I like Seek. I tried thinking a name with 'swype' or 'gestures' but nothing came up.

mvietri avatar Jan 13 '19 01:01 mvietri

Seek sounds good. BTW, any place to download debug builds?

mufeedali avatar Jan 13 '19 18:01 mufeedali

A lot of people didn't like the name Dank for the app. Perhaps it's a good time to change the name to something which would sound more professional? I personally very like the name Seek which someone shared in dank's subreddit previously but I'm open to other ideas.

I like Seek. I tried thinking a name with 'swype' or 'gestures' but nothing came up.

Around the same idea, I've tough of a rime with Reddit, Like "SlickIt" or with yours "SeekIt". Yeah, I'm not that good with English Slang However, Outside of that, The Dank icon need also to be changed, as, Deal With It glasses are "2 Dank 4 Me" still. So, I'll suggest instead another type of glasses, with an overhaul more classical look. I did conserve the swipe upvotes and downvotes off the app on the icon however to give it more identity. That's just a suggestion, I'm not a professional or whatever. SeekIt/SlickIt

Seek sounds good. BTW, any place to download debug builds? @lastweakness

You can get latest automatically built debug version from my fork here. But since this is debug version the app might work slower due to lack of optimization and a lot of additional stuff running in background which helps with development. I'm not yet sure how to distribute proper versions though. I could probably create my own signing key and use that but it wouldn't be compatible with previous official versions.

PoorPocketsMcNewHold avatar Jan 13 '19 18:01 PoorPocketsMcNewHold

@PoorPocketsMcNewHold That icon looks very good, but I would suggest making the icon adaptive so that it fits the user's preferred icon theme. So the top layer could be the reddit icon with the upvotes, and the back layer could be the purple backdrop or maybe even the shade of grey used in the app theme. Once again that looks great!

https://developer.android.com/guide/practices/ui_guidelines/icon_design_adaptive Heres a link to the android developer docs for a better explanation of what I meant

az4726 avatar Jan 13 '19 20:01 az4726

@PoorPocketsMcNewHold Icon looks fine but I would remove the up/down vote and leave the head only? For me it's a bit too noisy right now. But it's a good start.

dotvhs avatar Jan 13 '19 21:01 dotvhs

@PoorPocketsMcNewHold Icon looks fine but I would remove the up/down vote and leave the head only? For me it's a bit too noisy right now. But it's a good start.

Maybe put the upvote on one side of the glasses and the downvote on the other side (on the inside).

mvietri avatar Jan 14 '19 01:01 mvietri

@PoorPocketsMcNewHold That icon looks very good, but I would suggest making the icon adaptive so that it fits the user's preferred icon theme. So the top layer could be the reddit icon with the upvotes, and the back layer could be the purple backdrop or maybe even the shade of grey used in the app theme. Once again that looks great!

https://developer.android.com/guide/practices/ui_guidelines/icon_design_adaptive Heres a link to the android developer docs for a better explanation of what I meant

dankiconadaptiveblacknoshadow dankiconadaptive Am i doing it right ?

@PoorPocketsMcNewHold Icon looks fine but I would remove the up/down vote and leave the head only? For me it's a bit too noisy right now. But it's a good start.

dankiconmockupwithoutupvotes

I suppose, like that ?

@PoorPocketsMcNewHold Icon looks fine but I would remove the up/down vote and leave the head only? For me it's a bit too noisy right now. But it's a good start.

Maybe put the upvote on one side of the glasses and the downvote on the other side (on the inside).

dankiconfromsidetoside dankiconsidetoside Which one were you trying to describe ? (Except, if it was a mix of both at different line starting points)

PoorPocketsMcNewHold avatar Jan 16 '19 12:01 PoorPocketsMcNewHold

@PoorPocketsMcNewHold don't laugh about my paint skills but I meant something like this:

2019-01-16 16_30_03-window

But it's a terrible idea xD

mvietri avatar Jan 16 '19 19:01 mvietri

Snoo-only icon looks best if you ask me. I will give it a go one day as well, I have few ideas.

dotvhs avatar Jan 16 '19 19:01 dotvhs

I am not really sure about the colors just yet, so please bear with me: image

https://adapticon.tooo.io/#/bg=https://i.imgur.com/CvPtE9I.png/fg=https://i.imgur.com/b3vDy19.png

EDIT: In next revision I think I will change the background to the grey (although I'm afraid it will look a bit worse) that is used in app and also move antenna up a bit so it sticks out of the sun just a little.

dotvhs avatar Jan 19 '19 23:01 dotvhs

Small revisions: microsoft microsoft

I still need to work on the shape of that antenna, there is something off about it.

dotvhs avatar Jan 20 '19 04:01 dotvhs

Small revisions: microsoft microsoft

I still need to work on the shape of that antenna, there is something off about it.

I absolutely love these. I would even recommend using the "Vice City" colored one as well as for a dev/beta branch one, and the other one for the stable branch.

PoorPocketsMcNewHold avatar Jan 20 '19 08:01 PoorPocketsMcNewHold

I really do like them and the idea of using both for different release channels.

May I ask if it's ok to use the reddit logo on a 3rd party app or did @saket get permission from reddit?

mvietri avatar Jan 20 '19 11:01 mvietri

@Esselans Good question, and sadly, reddit generally doesn't allow snoo to be used in app logo's. See https://www.redditinc.com/assets/press-resources/reddit_brand_guidelines_20180314.pdf, page 16:

Generally not permitted or approved Use of the Reddit brand as any part of the name of a company, product, service, app, website, domain name, or social media account.

So sadly, these logo ideas might get the app pulled from the Play Store/App Store.

qtto avatar Jan 20 '19 12:01 qtto

@qtto Well, dang it. Let's hope that we are fine as long as we don't use original snoo, which has different colours, eyes, a smile, antenna and an outline.

dotvhs avatar Jan 20 '19 14:01 dotvhs

Let's hope so indeed - if reddit thinks it's too similar they'll have you change it (this happened with Apollo). I do think this is probably fine.

I dig the icons @Esselans proposed, but I'm not sure if it should stay with the original theme? If the app is rebranded to Seek I think the icon should not be stuck in the Dank-era (i.e. the sunglasses).

qtto avatar Jan 20 '19 14:01 qtto

Let's hope so indeed - if reddit thinks it's too similar they'll have you change it (this happened with Apollo). I do think this is probably fine.

I dig the icons @Esselans proposed, but I'm not sure if it should stay with the original theme? If the app is rebranded to Seek I think the icon should not be stuck in the Dank-era (i.e. the sunglasses).

Yeah, I forgot the name is supposed to be Seek and not Sleek. In worst case scenario I can go back to the drawing board again when we settle on the app name and icon won't fit it anymore.

dotvhs avatar Jan 20 '19 15:01 dotvhs

I changed the antenna, I think it is a bit better but I probably was already looking on it way too much to be objective:

Adaptive preview: https://adapticon.tooo.io/#/bg=https://i.imgur.com/oe9tHKd.png/fg=https://i.imgur.com/Oz9e66P.png https://adapticon.tooo.io/#/bg=https://i.imgur.com/gaHRcBM.png/fg=https://i.imgur.com/fe6Ovnq.png

dotvhs avatar Jan 24 '19 02:01 dotvhs

Has there been any progress overall on the rebrand?

Really beautiful designs @dotvhs

Soitora avatar Apr 16 '19 03:04 Soitora

I was about to publish the app to the play store but then having to upload an icon reminded me about this discussion. Now, I guess it would be a good moment to go for the new name (or keep dank) and icon design.

@saket what do you think about this? You mentioned doing it in main repository too so I wonder how we could pull that out.

Tunous avatar Aug 22 '19 16:08 Tunous

Well, I think we should profit this occasion of renaming Dank. Compared to the currently popular Reddit clients, Dank has short-lived and didn’t receive as much love as I would think, to keep the need to re-use that name for its rebrand. We can indeed relaunch the name brainstorming (But the already proposed names for it were pretty good already)

PoorPocketsMcNewHold avatar Aug 22 '19 16:08 PoorPocketsMcNewHold

Um, go ahead with changing the name for your fork. I think I'm okay with forks maintaining their own names and logos. Just keep a credit link somewhere in the about section and I'll be more than happy :)

saket avatar Aug 22 '19 17:08 saket

I agree that changing the name would be good. When the app was first released by @saket it already had a lot of comments about the name :-)

I think Seek was a fine suggestion - it makes it sound a lot like a video/music player in my opinion, but at least it implies some movement (good for such a gesture focused app). But I do believe brainstorming some more would be nice.

qtto avatar Aug 22 '19 17:08 qtto

Yeah. I'll go with Seek and the logos made by @dotvhs (the left one)

mvietri avatar Aug 22 '19 17:08 mvietri

Seek for Reddit with the app icons from @dotvhs

Dark Background one for Main and Purple one for Dev builds

Soitora avatar Aug 23 '19 03:08 Soitora