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create an alternate recipe for soldering alloy

Open KorGgenT opened this issue 10 months ago • 2 comments

What is the new behavior?

mixer_woods_alloy 15x Bismuth, 8x Lead, 4x tin, 3x cadmium -> 30x soldering alloy and the centrifuge recipe for soldering alloy dust has been removed.

Additional Information

Soldering alloy is the kind of thing that is used well into the endgame, and there are several types of ore that do not currently have any or much use in the game -namely, cadmium and bismuth. I have looked at the wiki page for solder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder_alloys and there are a very wide variety of soldering alloys - which is very much why tin (and in the past, lead) have been used by GT as soldering alloys.

I have attempted to create a new material so the centrifuge recipe could be preserved, but it turns out that kubejs does not allow fluids to have a tag for recipes. this means that every single recipe that uses the other types of solder would need to be updated and not only that, but it would start to severely pollute EMI. Frankly it's probably why GT removed liquid lead. I've reasoned out that the centrifuge recipe for soldering alloy isn't of much use at all, as solder is almost universally important in the game, and it would just likely be better if there were other ways to turn various things into solder, though that could be a further discussion or a discussion built upon this one. I do believe that givi9ng cadmium a fairly reasonable use (no, batteries are not a reasonable use as they are straight up worse than sodium which is free) will definitely get people to process for it instead of trashing it, and bismuth having a lategame use will definitely round it out as a material. This specific alloy may not be the best solder around, so it could possibly make less, but that is also worthy of discussion in my opinion.

KorGgenT avatar Feb 09 '25 23:02 KorGgenT

i like it one very small nitpick is it looks like most solders have more tin than lead a slightly more realistic ratio might be to swap the tin and lead amounts. for example indalloy 42 has a composition of 46% bismuth, 34% tin, and 20% lead no cadmium but that it seems is mostly added for better strength with most cadmium solders being around 15-20% cadmium.

quinnriemer avatar Feb 11 '25 18:02 quinnriemer

i like it one very small nitpick is it looks like most solders have more tin than lead a slightly more realistic ratio might be to swap the tin and lead amounts. for example indalloy 42 has a composition of 46% bismuth, 34% tin, and 20% lead no cadmium but that it seems is mostly added for better strength with most cadmium solders being around 15-20% cadmium.

The recipe is based of Wood's Metal, which (at least according to Wikipedia) has percentage components similar to the current recipe.

CaptainGold1 avatar Feb 11 '25 18:02 CaptainGold1

gonna close this PR because if this were to be implemented "correctly", it would be done very differently

Pyritie avatar May 28 '25 12:05 Pyritie