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Add support lbry.tv / odysee.com
If this gets added, could we add a feature to watch youtube videos on LBRY if the video is also available on LBRY?
LBRY.tv seems to be gaining popularity momentum with more and more YT channels coexist on both platforms. Upvote +1
It'd be very nice to be able to watch lbry videos on NewPipe. There is already support for SoundCloud, MidiaCCC and FramaTube. I'm all for it.
I would also like to see NewPipe incorporate LBRY.
Source code for the official android lbry client/app. https://github.com/lbryio/lbry-fdroid
dear reader, you might want to check the linked topic there for more context on this feature request!
https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues/4733
disclaimer: i wrote it. 😁
The extractor doesn't need to parse lbry.tv or odysee.com, instead videos can be read straight from the LBRY network.
lbt is a feature rich shell script for accessing content on the LBRY network simply by using curl and the LBRY SDK lbrynet.
Hello, This is something I am waiting for. piped.kavin.rocks already supports lbry streaming.
Yes please. Also don't pull that bitchute bullshit on us this time please!
If this is written--will the pull request be accepted, or will it be slapped down on account of some kind of ideology? I'd like to foster competition to YT & do not want to use the LBRY app because it's not as efficient as Newpipe.
If this is written--will the pull request be accepted, or will it be slapped down on account of some kind of ideology?
NewPipe would slap it down. Take a look at a fork called BraveNewPipe. I believe they would happily accept your contribution. BNP is NewPipe with additional sources, and no political ideology.
https://github.com/bravenewpipe/NewPipeExtractor/issues/16
Funded this issue via gitpay.me: https://gitpay.me/#/task/608
Anyone who's interested in this, feel free to chip in. Maybe we can get it done!
Is this going to be added or are you going to close the issue? Naturally people are hesitant to make a pull request because of how quickly the other one was shut down. I hope you guys are aware of the difference between closing a feature request that took little effort and rejecting a pull request that took a lot of effort.
I hope you guys are aware of the difference between closing a feature request that took little effort and rejecting a pull request that took a lot of effort.
@DraconicNEO Doesn't matter. If you read the contribution guidelines, you will see that we strongly advise contributors to get in touch with us before doing anything major, precisely to avoid wasted effort. If a contributor ignores that, it is on them.
BTW, there was no such pull request. There have only been issues asking for support. You might be thinking of another project or repo.
This fork supports bitchute and rumble already (not odysee unfortunately) https://github.com/bravenewpipe/NewPipe
I suggest switching over, since NewPipe devs are unlikely to implement support for these sites due to their political views
Honest question:
What political reasons makes them be against LBRY/Odysee though?
It is just an decentralized alternative to YT ran by individuals servers connected by the BitTorrent Protocol, the Blockchain is simply for indexing trackers.
No right/left wing speech are promoted by them, and they have basically the same rules of YouTube.
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My guessing:
Maybe it's not political though, but tech-idealism? Since they have PeerTube, that is basically the same of Odysee but part of Fediverse my guessing would be that the developers don't actually like blockchain stuff and prefer to promote pure federative softwares.
If so, it's a pitty because I really like LBRY but it a fair point in the end.
If that's their position, they should state it. Because they're choosing to be cagey about their motives, we can only assume it's due to selfish political ideology. LBRY may not be "right wing", but they see it as such--that's all that matters.
Reaching to make an excuse for them is a waste of all of our time, honestly. They're not interested in the implementation--the end.
On September 22, 2022 8:37:41 AM CDT, Bruno @.***> wrote:
Honest question:
What political reasons makes them be against LBRY/Odysee though?
It is just an decentralized alternative to YT ran by individuals servers connected by the BitTorrent Protocol, the Blockchain is simply for indexing trackers.
No right/left wing speech are promoted by them, and they have basically the same rules of YouTube.
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My guessing:
Maybe it's not political though, but tech-idealism? Since they have PeerTube, that is basically the same of Odysee but part of Fediverse my guessing would be that the developers don't actually like blockchain stuff and prefer to promote pure federative softwares.
If so, it's a pitty because I really like LBRY but it a fair point in the end.
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Honest question:
What political reasons makes them be against LBRY/Odysee though?
It is just an decentralized alternative to YT ran by individuals servers connected by the BitTorrent Protocol, the Blockchain is simply for indexing trackers.
No right/left wing speech are promoted by them, and they have basically the same rules of YouTube.
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My guessing:
Maybe it's not political though, but tech-idealism? Since they have PeerTube, that is basically the same of Odysee but part of Fediverse my guessing would be that the developers don't actually like blockchain stuff and prefer to promote pure federative softwares.
If so, it's a pitty because I really like LBRY but it a fair point in the end.
I'm going to say that was probably their whole reason of rejecting platforms in the first place. It wouldn't matter what content is on those platforms it would be how those platforms are set up.
I keep reading these comments and I'm wondering: Are there any sources to back this up? Did the developers of NewPipe actually say that they won't implement service X or Y because of ideological reasons?
Unless that's the case I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and probably rather take this comment as the primary reason for not adding further services.
Long story short, it's OSS. If someone with a bit of time (and necessary knowledge) on their hands feels like building a solid LBRY implement and opening a PR I can hardly imagine the NewPipe people acting like nah thanks, we're good.
I look at my hidden question above speaking to this exact issue & I see my answer.
I will agree that debating this is a fucking waste of time--and the topic should be dropped until results are produced (somewhere), however.
On September 22, 2022 5:11:59 PM CDT, "◤◢◤◢◤◢◤◢" @.***> wrote:
I keep reading these comments and I'm wondering: Are there any sources to back this up? Did the developers of NewPipe actually say that they won't implement service X or Y because of ideological reasons?
Unless that's the case I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and probably rather take this comment as the primary reason for not adding further services.
Long story short, it's OSS. If someone with a bit of time (and necessary knowledge) on their hands feels like building a solid LBRY implement and opening a PR I can hardly imagine the NewPipe people acting like nah thanks, we're good.
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@brunocalmon @mrusme This is the comment I was talking about (on a PR that gave Bitchute support, which was ultimately rejected)
https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipeExtractor/pull/325#issuecomment-626801193
TLDR: they find these websites to be sources of 'misinformation' and 'extremism'... or IMHO the content simply doesn't fit their personal bias, so they don't wanna add support
I think the onus should be on the user to decide for themselves, which content they'd like to consume, not this gatekeeping approach (antithetical to FOSS philosophy if we're being honest)
Did the developers of NewPipe actually say that they won't implement service X or Y because of ideological reasons?
Yes they did, here: https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipeExtractor/issues/434#issuecomment-1255038576
They went so far as to argue that you saying something they disagree with is a violation of their rights. Pure politics.
Right. Lots of speculation, assumptions and accusations in the comments. And some whining, but that's par for the course.
Firstly, there have been no comments by any team member either accepting or rejecting the service. Nor has there ever been a PR adding support that could be accepted or rejected. So any assumptions or accusations based on that are wrong. Some voices of reason questioned this, so thank you for that. Your comments were still marked off-topic because that's just the case on Github. Feel free to go off-topic galore in our IRC channel.
Secondly, just like Bravenewpipe supports 2 additional services that Newpipe doesn't have, you can go all out and add whatever services you like to your own forks. Because FOSS. Or, you could politely request the maintainers of a fork (there are at least 2) to add support. Because FOSS. But complaining about the supposed "political views" of team members won't suddenly make them 'see the light' or the 'error of their ways' and get them to drop everything to spend hours/days/weeks to add support for [insert your personal bandwagon service here] for free. Because FOSS. So there is no point in doing that, in this repo or in any FOSS project.
Finally, Odysee unfortunately caters to misinformation: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-media-misinformation/
If you genuinely think that [insert your favourite content creator here] is not part of the misinformation camp and doesn't deserve to get blocked out merely because they use LBRY, consider persuading them to try Peertube. Not only will it potentially increase their viewers, but it would help them avoid the stigma associated with LBRY. And of course, you can add their instance, or one their chosen instance federates to, to Newpipe. (Just to be clear, this is not about superior tech, merely about exploring a platform that could help such creators out.)
And now, some food for thought: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
Service rejected. If, in the future, it turns out to be the case that a vast majority of LBRY content creators are genuine and the misinformation camp has been reduced to a tiny minority, we could revisit this service request.