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.tun files not working properly in Quanta

Open stewartmiller784 opened this issue 4 years ago • 17 comments

I've downloaded boatloads of .tun files from Sevish's workshop, and they've all worked fine in Xfer Serum, but recently I bought a granular synth called Quanta by AudioDamage, which also handles .tun, and the files that were working in Serum were behaving strangely in Quanta; I could only get all of the notes within one specific octave working, and anything outside that range would play at either a really high or really low pitch that had nothing to do with the tuning.

I ended up contacting AudioDamage and asking them what they thought was up. Here's the response I got:

"After some investigation I figured out what’s going on with those .tun files. I ended up getting in touch with the author of Serum to find out why it loads the files successfully but Quanta does not. The story is this: the specification of .tun files has evolved over time. Both Serum and Quanta use source code written by the creator of the .tun file format. Serum happens to use an older version of this source code which only handles version 1.5 files. Quanta uses the current version of the code, which handles version 2.0 files. The .tun files generated by that website (ed: Sevish's Scale Workshop) use the version 2.0 file format, but they are incomplete. Specifically, they do not provide the information which maps scale frequencies to MIDI notes. On the other hand, they contain the scale frequencies in both version 1.5 and version 2.0 formats. So, when Serum reads the files, it reads the version 1.5 information and works correctly because it ignores the incomplete version-2.0 information. When Quanta reads the same files, it finds and uses the version 2.0 information, which is incomplete, and hence produces incorrect pitches.

The real solution for this problem is for that website to generate either correct version-2.0 files, or to omit the version-2.0 information altogether. The workaround I figured out is to open the .tun files with a text editor, delete the version-2.0 information, and re-save them. I did this with one of the files you sent me and loaded it into both Serum and Quanta. Both synthesizers then play the same frequencies across the keyboard.

Here’s how you can edit the files. Open the .tun file in a text editor and look near the bottom for a line that says “[Functional Tuning]”. (There will be a blank line above it, and the line above that will be something like “note 127= 11142.822694”.) Delete that line and all of the lines below it except the very last line, which will say [Scale End]. The last line you delete will probably say something like “note 69=! 440.0000”. Save the file and then try opening it again with Quanta."

stewartmiller784 avatar Jan 14 '20 14:01 stewartmiller784

By any chance do you have any TUN files with the Functional Tuning section that work as expected with Quanta? Perhaps a preset/stock TUN file that I could use as a reference?

SeanArchibald avatar Dec 21 '20 12:12 SeanArchibald

sure.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 7:26 AM Sean Archibald [email protected] wrote:

By any chance do you have any TUN files with the Functional Tuning section that work as expected with Quanta? Perhaps a preset/stock TUN file that I could use as a reference?

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stewartmiller784 avatar Dec 21 '20 20:12 stewartmiller784

here's one from your website, unedited. just checked it, doesn't work in quanta

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 3:48 PM Stewart Miller [email protected] wrote:

sure.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 7:26 AM Sean Archibald [email protected] wrote:

By any chance do you have any TUN files with the Functional Tuning section that work as expected with Quanta? Perhaps a preset/stock TUN file that I could use as a reference?

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stewartmiller784 avatar Dec 21 '20 21:12 stewartmiller784

Right... I have a potential fix in place on the development instance of Scale Workshop: https://sevish.com/scaleworkshop-dev/

Does the tun file exported from that version work with Quanta?

SeanArchibald avatar Dec 21 '20 21:12 SeanArchibald

No. I tried loading it in, it defaulted back to 12edo. I'm guessing it couldn't read the file.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 4:30 PM Sean Archibald [email protected] wrote:

Right... I have a potential fix in place on the development instance of Scale Workshop: https://sevish.com/scaleworkshop-dev/

Does the tun file exported from that version work with Quanta?

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stewartmiller784 avatar Dec 21 '20 23:12 stewartmiller784

Here’s how you can edit the files. Open the .tun file in a text editor and look near the bottom for a line that says “[Functional Tuning]”. (There will be a blank line above it, and the line above that will be something like “note 127= 11142.822694”.) Delete that line and all of the lines below it except the very last line, which will say [Scale End]. The last line you delete will probably say something like “note 69=! 440.0000”. Save the file and then try opening it again with Quanta."

This suggestion above is what I tried. Except I ignored the part about deleting 'note 127' because it is required by the AnaMark spec (it is the final MIDI note after all).

Your attachments didn't come through by the way - maybe github ignore attachments that it receives by email? If possible could you copy and paste the contents of a working tun file in here and I will use it as a reference.

Thanks!

SeanArchibald avatar Dec 22 '20 09:12 SeanArchibald

This is what i see when I open up the working file in Notepad ++:

; VAZ Plus/AnaMark softsynth tuning file ; 31 equal divisions of 2/1 ; ; VAZ Plus section [Tuning] note 0=4229 note 1=4267 note 2=4306 note 3=4345 note 4=4383 note 5=4422 note 6=4461 note 7=4500 note 8=4538 note 9=4577 note 10=4616 note 11=4654 note 12=4693 note 13=4732 note 14=4770 note 15=4809 note 16=4848 note 17=4887 note 18=4925 note 19=4964 note 20=5003 note 21=5041 note 22=5080 note 23=5119 note 24=5158 note 25=5196 note 26=5235 note 27=5274 note 28=5312 note 29=5351 note 30=5390 note 31=5429 note 32=5467 note 33=5506 note 34=5545 note 35=5583 note 36=5622 note 37=5661 note 38=5700 note 39=5738 note 40=5777 note 41=5816 note 42=5854 note 43=5893 note 44=5932 note 45=5970 note 46=6009 note 47=6048 note 48=6087 note 49=6125 note 50=6164 note 51=6203 note 52=6241 note 53=6280 note 54=6319 note 55=6358 note 56=6396 note 57=6435 note 58=6474 note 59=6512 note 60=6551 note 61=6590 note 62=6629 note 63=6667 note 64=6706 note 65=6745 note 66=6783 note 67=6822 note 68=6861 note 69=6900 note 70=6938 note 71=6977 note 72=7016 note 73=7054 note 74=7093 note 75=7132 note 76=7170 note 77=7209 note 78=7248 note 79=7287 note 80=7325 note 81=7364 note 82=7403 note 83=7441 note 84=7480 note 85=7519 note 86=7558 note 87=7596 note 88=7635 note 89=7674 note 90=7712 note 91=7751 note 92=7790 note 93=7829 note 94=7867 note 95=7906 note 96=7945 note 97=7983 note 98=8022 note 99=8061 note 100=8100 note 101=8138 note 102=8177 note 103=8216 note 104=8254 note 105=8293 note 106=8332 note 107=8370 note 108=8409 note 109=8448 note 110=8487 note 111=8525 note 112=8564 note 113=8603 note 114=8641 note 115=8680 note 116=8719 note 117=8758 note 118=8796 note 119=8835 note 120=8874 note 121=8912 note 122=8951 note 123=8990 note 124=9029 note 125=9067 note 126=9106 note 127=9145

; AnaMark section [Scale Begin] Format= "AnaMark-TUN" FormatVersion= 200 FormatSpecs= "http://www.mark-henning.de/eternity/tuningspecs.html"

[Info] Name= "31 equal divisions of 2_1.tun" ID= "31equaldivisionsof2_1.tun" Filename= "31 equal divisions of 2_1.tun" Description= "31 equal divisions of 2/1" Date= "2019-12-26" Editor= "Scale Workshop 1.0.2"

[Exact Tuning] note 0= 4229.032258 note 1= 4267.741935 note 2= 4306.451613 note 3= 4345.161290 note 4= 4383.870968 note 5= 4422.580645 note 6= 4461.290323 note 7= 4500.000000 note 8= 4538.709677 note 9= 4577.419355 note 10= 4616.129032 note 11= 4654.838710 note 12= 4693.548387 note 13= 4732.258065 note 14= 4770.967742 note 15= 4809.677419 note 16= 4848.387097 note 17= 4887.096774 note 18= 4925.806452 note 19= 4964.516129 note 20= 5003.225806 note 21= 5041.935484 note 22= 5080.645161 note 23= 5119.354839 note 24= 5158.064516 note 25= 5196.774194 note 26= 5235.483871 note 27= 5274.193548 note 28= 5312.903226 note 29= 5351.612903 note 30= 5390.322581 note 31= 5429.032258 note 32= 5467.741935 note 33= 5506.451613 note 34= 5545.161290 note 35= 5583.870968 note 36= 5622.580645 note 37= 5661.290323 note 38= 5700.000000 note 39= 5738.709677 note 40= 5777.419355 note 41= 5816.129032 note 42= 5854.838710 note 43= 5893.548387 note 44= 5932.258065 note 45= 5970.967742 note 46= 6009.677419 note 47= 6048.387097 note 48= 6087.096774 note 49= 6125.806452 note 50= 6164.516129 note 51= 6203.225806 note 52= 6241.935484 note 53= 6280.645161 note 54= 6319.354839 note 55= 6358.064516 note 56= 6396.774194 note 57= 6435.483871 note 58= 6474.193548 note 59= 6512.903226 note 60= 6551.612903 note 61= 6590.322581 note 62= 6629.032258 note 63= 6667.741935 note 64= 6706.451613 note 65= 6745.161290 note 66= 6783.870968 note 67= 6822.580645 note 68= 6861.290323 note 69= 6900.000000 note 70= 6938.709677 note 71= 6977.419355 note 72= 7016.129032 note 73= 7054.838710 note 74= 7093.548387 note 75= 7132.258065 note 76= 7170.967742 note 77= 7209.677419 note 78= 7248.387097 note 79= 7287.096774 note 80= 7325.806452 note 81= 7364.516129 note 82= 7403.225806 note 83= 7441.935484 note 84= 7480.645161 note 85= 7519.354839 note 86= 7558.064516 note 87= 7596.774194 note 88= 7635.483871 note 89= 7674.193548 note 90= 7712.903226 note 91= 7751.612903 note 92= 7790.322581 note 93= 7829.032258 note 94= 7867.741935 note 95= 7906.451613 note 96= 7945.161290 note 97= 7983.870968 note 98= 8022.580645 note 99= 8061.290323 note 100= 8100.000000 note 101= 8138.709677 note 102= 8177.419355 note 103= 8216.129032 note 104= 8254.838710 note 105= 8293.548387 note 106= 8332.258065 note 107= 8370.967742 note 108= 8409.677419 note 109= 8448.387097 note 110= 8487.096774 note 111= 8525.806452 note 112= 8564.516129 note 113= 8603.225806 note 114= 8641.935484 note 115= 8680.645161 note 116= 8719.354839 note 117= 8758.064516 note 118= 8796.774194 note 119= 8835.483871 note 120= 8874.193548 note 121= 8912.903226 note 122= 8951.612903 note 123= 8990.322581 note 124= 9029.032258 note 125= 9067.741935 note 126= 9106.451613 note 127= 9145.161290

[Scale End]

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 4:47 AM Sean Archibald [email protected] wrote:

Here’s how you can edit the files. Open the .tun file in a text editor and look near the bottom for a line that says “[Functional Tuning]”. (There will be a blank line above it, and the line above that will be something like “note 127= 11142.822694”.) Delete that line and all of the lines below it except the very last line, which will say [Scale End]. The last line you delete will probably say something like “note 69=! 440.0000”. Save the file and then try opening it again with Quanta."

This suggestion above is what I tried. Except I ignored the part about deleting 'note 127' because it is required by the AnaMark spec (it is the final MIDI note after all).

Your attachments didn't come through by the way - maybe github ignore attachments that it receives by email? If possible could you copy and paste the contents of a working tun file in here and I will use it as a reference.

Thanks!

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stewartmiller784 avatar Dec 22 '20 16:12 stewartmiller784

I don't see any significant difference between what you posted and the tun files I'm getting from Scale Workshop. I've made one extremely minor tweak, not sure if it will have an effect, and exported the 31edo tun file myself. I've just pasted it below, so if you get a chance please try that out and let me know if it works.

; VAZ Plus/AnaMark softsynth tuning file ; 31 equal divisions of 2/1 ; ; https://sevish.com/scaleworkshop-dev/?name=31%20equal%20divisions%20of%202%2F1&data=38.70967741935484%0A77.41935483870968%0A116.12903225806451%0A154.83870967741936%0A193.5483870967742%0A232.25806451612902%0A270.9677419354839%0A309.6774193548387%0A348.38709677419354%0A387.0967741935484%0A425.80645161290323%0A464.51612903225805%0A503.2258064516129%0A541.9354838709678%0A580.6451612903226%0A619.3548387096774%0A658.0645161290323%0A696.7741935483871%0A735.483870967742%0A774.1935483870968%0A812.9032258064516%0A851.6129032258065%0A890.3225806451613%0A929.0322580645161%0A967.741935483871%0A1006.4516129032259%0A1045.1612903225807%0A1083.8709677419356%0A1122.5806451612902%0A1161.2903225806451%0A1200.&freq=440&midi=69&vert=5&horiz=1&colors=white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black&waveform=triangle&ampenv=organ ; ; VAZ Plus section [Tuning] note 0=4229 note 1=4267 note 2=4306 note 3=4345 note 4=4383 note 5=4422 note 6=4461 note 7=4500 note 8=4538 note 9=4577 note 10=4616 note 11=4654 note 12=4693 note 13=4732 note 14=4770 note 15=4809 note 16=4848 note 17=4887 note 18=4925 note 19=4964 note 20=5003 note 21=5041 note 22=5080 note 23=5119 note 24=5158 note 25=5196 note 26=5235 note 27=5274 note 28=5312 note 29=5351 note 30=5390 note 31=5429 note 32=5467 note 33=5506 note 34=5545 note 35=5583 note 36=5622 note 37=5661 note 38=5700 note 39=5738 note 40=5777 note 41=5816 note 42=5854 note 43=5893 note 44=5932 note 45=5970 note 46=6009 note 47=6048 note 48=6087 note 49=6125 note 50=6164 note 51=6203 note 52=6241 note 53=6280 note 54=6319 note 55=6358 note 56=6396 note 57=6435 note 58=6474 note 59=6512 note 60=6551 note 61=6590 note 62=6629 note 63=6667 note 64=6706 note 65=6745 note 66=6783 note 67=6822 note 68=6861 note 69=6900 note 70=6938 note 71=6977 note 72=7016 note 73=7054 note 74=7093 note 75=7132 note 76=7170 note 77=7209 note 78=7248 note 79=7287 note 80=7325 note 81=7364 note 82=7403 note 83=7441 note 84=7480 note 85=7519 note 86=7558 note 87=7596 note 88=7635 note 89=7674 note 90=7712 note 91=7751 note 92=7790 note 93=7829 note 94=7867 note 95=7906 note 96=7945 note 97=7983 note 98=8022 note 99=8061 note 100=8100 note 101=8138 note 102=8177 note 103=8216 note 104=8254 note 105=8293 note 106=8332 note 107=8370 note 108=8409 note 109=8448 note 110=8487 note 111=8525 note 112=8564 note 113=8603 note 114=8641 note 115=8680 note 116=8719 note 117=8758 note 118=8796 note 119=8835 note 120=8874 note 121=8912 note 122=8951 note 123=8990 note 124=9029 note 125=9067 note 126=9106 note 127=9145

; AnaMark section [Scale Begin] Format= "AnaMark-TUN" FormatVersion= 100 FormatSpecs= "http://www.mark-henning.de/eternity/tuningspecs.html"

[Info] Name= "31 equal divisions of 2_1.tun" ID= "31equaldivisionsof2_1.tun" Filename= "31 equal divisions of 2_1.tun" Description= "31 equal divisions of 2/1" Date= "2020-12-22" Editor= "Scale Workshop 1.3"

[Exact Tuning] note 0= 4229.032258 note 1= 4267.741935 note 2= 4306.451613 note 3= 4345.161290 note 4= 4383.870968 note 5= 4422.580645 note 6= 4461.290323 note 7= 4500.000000 note 8= 4538.709677 note 9= 4577.419355 note 10= 4616.129032 note 11= 4654.838710 note 12= 4693.548387 note 13= 4732.258065 note 14= 4770.967742 note 15= 4809.677419 note 16= 4848.387097 note 17= 4887.096774 note 18= 4925.806452 note 19= 4964.516129 note 20= 5003.225806 note 21= 5041.935484 note 22= 5080.645161 note 23= 5119.354839 note 24= 5158.064516 note 25= 5196.774194 note 26= 5235.483871 note 27= 5274.193548 note 28= 5312.903226 note 29= 5351.612903 note 30= 5390.322581 note 31= 5429.032258 note 32= 5467.741935 note 33= 5506.451613 note 34= 5545.161290 note 35= 5583.870968 note 36= 5622.580645 note 37= 5661.290323 note 38= 5700.000000 note 39= 5738.709677 note 40= 5777.419355 note 41= 5816.129032 note 42= 5854.838710 note 43= 5893.548387 note 44= 5932.258065 note 45= 5970.967742 note 46= 6009.677419 note 47= 6048.387097 note 48= 6087.096774 note 49= 6125.806452 note 50= 6164.516129 note 51= 6203.225806 note 52= 6241.935484 note 53= 6280.645161 note 54= 6319.354839 note 55= 6358.064516 note 56= 6396.774194 note 57= 6435.483871 note 58= 6474.193548 note 59= 6512.903226 note 60= 6551.612903 note 61= 6590.322581 note 62= 6629.032258 note 63= 6667.741935 note 64= 6706.451613 note 65= 6745.161290 note 66= 6783.870968 note 67= 6822.580645 note 68= 6861.290323 note 69= 6900.000000 note 70= 6938.709677 note 71= 6977.419355 note 72= 7016.129032 note 73= 7054.838710 note 74= 7093.548387 note 75= 7132.258065 note 76= 7170.967742 note 77= 7209.677419 note 78= 7248.387097 note 79= 7287.096774 note 80= 7325.806452 note 81= 7364.516129 note 82= 7403.225806 note 83= 7441.935484 note 84= 7480.645161 note 85= 7519.354839 note 86= 7558.064516 note 87= 7596.774194 note 88= 7635.483871 note 89= 7674.193548 note 90= 7712.903226 note 91= 7751.612903 note 92= 7790.322581 note 93= 7829.032258 note 94= 7867.741935 note 95= 7906.451613 note 96= 7945.161290 note 97= 7983.870968 note 98= 8022.580645 note 99= 8061.290323 note 100= 8100.000000 note 101= 8138.709677 note 102= 8177.419355 note 103= 8216.129032 note 104= 8254.838710 note 105= 8293.548387 note 106= 8332.258065 note 107= 8370.967742 note 108= 8409.677419 note 109= 8448.387097 note 110= 8487.096774 note 111= 8525.806452 note 112= 8564.516129 note 113= 8603.225806 note 114= 8641.935484 note 115= 8680.645161 note 116= 8719.354839 note 117= 8758.064516 note 118= 8796.774194 note 119= 8835.483871 note 120= 8874.193548 note 121= 8912.903226 note 122= 8951.612903 note 123= 8990.322581 note 124= 9029.032258 note 125= 9067.741935 note 126= 9106.451613 note 127= 9145.161290

[Scale End]

SeanArchibald avatar Dec 22 '20 21:12 SeanArchibald

Weird. I downloaded the .tun file from the link you posted. I got the same defaulting behavior in Quanta, and Serum won't read it either.

Here's one of the files that works in Serum but not Quanta:

; VAZ Plus/AnaMark softsynth tuning file ; 31 equal divisions of 2/1 ; ; VAZ Plus section [Tuning] note 0=4229 note 1=4267 note 2=4306 note 3=4345 note 4=4383 note 5=4422 note 6=4461 note 7=4500 note 8=4538 note 9=4577 note 10=4616 note 11=4654 note 12=4693 note 13=4732 note 14=4770 note 15=4809 note 16=4848 note 17=4887 note 18=4925 note 19=4964 note 20=5003 note 21=5041 note 22=5080 note 23=5119 note 24=5158 note 25=5196 note 26=5235 note 27=5274 note 28=5312 note 29=5351 note 30=5390 note 31=5429 note 32=5467 note 33=5506 note 34=5545 note 35=5583 note 36=5622 note 37=5661 note 38=5700 note 39=5738 note 40=5777 note 41=5816 note 42=5854 note 43=5893 note 44=5932 note 45=5970 note 46=6009 note 47=6048 note 48=6087 note 49=6125 note 50=6164 note 51=6203 note 52=6241 note 53=6280 note 54=6319 note 55=6358 note 56=6396 note 57=6435 note 58=6474 note 59=6512 note 60=6551 note 61=6590 note 62=6629 note 63=6667 note 64=6706 note 65=6745 note 66=6783 note 67=6822 note 68=6861 note 69=6900 note 70=6938 note 71=6977 note 72=7016 note 73=7054 note 74=7093 note 75=7132 note 76=7170 note 77=7209 note 78=7248 note 79=7287 note 80=7325 note 81=7364 note 82=7403 note 83=7441 note 84=7480 note 85=7519 note 86=7558 note 87=7596 note 88=7635 note 89=7674 note 90=7712 note 91=7751 note 92=7790 note 93=7829 note 94=7867 note 95=7906 note 96=7945 note 97=7983 note 98=8022 note 99=8061 note 100=8100 note 101=8138 note 102=8177 note 103=8216 note 104=8254 note 105=8293 note 106=8332 note 107=8370 note 108=8409 note 109=8448 note 110=8487 note 111=8525 note 112=8564 note 113=8603 note 114=8641 note 115=8680 note 116=8719 note 117=8758 note 118=8796 note 119=8835 note 120=8874 note 121=8912 note 122=8951 note 123=8990 note 124=9029 note 125=9067 note 126=9106 note 127=9145

; AnaMark section [Scale Begin] Format= "AnaMark-TUN" FormatVersion= 200 FormatSpecs= "http://www.mark-henning.de/eternity/tuningspecs.html"

[Info] Name= "31 equal divisions of 2_1.tun" ID= "31equaldivisionsof2_1.tun" Filename= "31 equal divisions of 2_1.tun" Description= "31 equal divisions of 2/1" Date= "2019-12-26" Editor= "Scale Workshop 1.0.2"

[Exact Tuning] note 0= 4229.032258 note 1= 4267.741935 note 2= 4306.451613 note 3= 4345.161290 note 4= 4383.870968 note 5= 4422.580645 note 6= 4461.290323 note 7= 4500.000000 note 8= 4538.709677 note 9= 4577.419355 note 10= 4616.129032 note 11= 4654.838710 note 12= 4693.548387 note 13= 4732.258065 note 14= 4770.967742 note 15= 4809.677419 note 16= 4848.387097 note 17= 4887.096774 note 18= 4925.806452 note 19= 4964.516129 note 20= 5003.225806 note 21= 5041.935484 note 22= 5080.645161 note 23= 5119.354839 note 24= 5158.064516 note 25= 5196.774194 note 26= 5235.483871 note 27= 5274.193548 note 28= 5312.903226 note 29= 5351.612903 note 30= 5390.322581 note 31= 5429.032258 note 32= 5467.741935 note 33= 5506.451613 note 34= 5545.161290 note 35= 5583.870968 note 36= 5622.580645 note 37= 5661.290323 note 38= 5700.000000 note 39= 5738.709677 note 40= 5777.419355 note 41= 5816.129032 note 42= 5854.838710 note 43= 5893.548387 note 44= 5932.258065 note 45= 5970.967742 note 46= 6009.677419 note 47= 6048.387097 note 48= 6087.096774 note 49= 6125.806452 note 50= 6164.516129 note 51= 6203.225806 note 52= 6241.935484 note 53= 6280.645161 note 54= 6319.354839 note 55= 6358.064516 note 56= 6396.774194 note 57= 6435.483871 note 58= 6474.193548 note 59= 6512.903226 note 60= 6551.612903 note 61= 6590.322581 note 62= 6629.032258 note 63= 6667.741935 note 64= 6706.451613 note 65= 6745.161290 note 66= 6783.870968 note 67= 6822.580645 note 68= 6861.290323 note 69= 6900.000000 note 70= 6938.709677 note 71= 6977.419355 note 72= 7016.129032 note 73= 7054.838710 note 74= 7093.548387 note 75= 7132.258065 note 76= 7170.967742 note 77= 7209.677419 note 78= 7248.387097 note 79= 7287.096774 note 80= 7325.806452 note 81= 7364.516129 note 82= 7403.225806 note 83= 7441.935484 note 84= 7480.645161 note 85= 7519.354839 note 86= 7558.064516 note 87= 7596.774194 note 88= 7635.483871 note 89= 7674.193548 note 90= 7712.903226 note 91= 7751.612903 note 92= 7790.322581 note 93= 7829.032258 note 94= 7867.741935 note 95= 7906.451613 note 96= 7945.161290 note 97= 7983.870968 note 98= 8022.580645 note 99= 8061.290323 note 100= 8100.000000 note 101= 8138.709677 note 102= 8177.419355 note 103= 8216.129032 note 104= 8254.838710 note 105= 8293.548387 note 106= 8332.258065 note 107= 8370.967742 note 108= 8409.677419 note 109= 8448.387097 note 110= 8487.096774 note 111= 8525.806452 note 112= 8564.516129 note 113= 8603.225806 note 114= 8641.935484 note 115= 8680.645161 note 116= 8719.354839 note 117= 8758.064516 note 118= 8796.774194 note 119= 8835.483871 note 120= 8874.193548 note 121= 8912.903226 note 122= 8951.612903 note 123= 8990.322581 note 124= 9029.032258 note 125= 9067.741935 note 126= 9106.451613 note 127= 9145.161290

[Functional Tuning] note 1="#=0 % 38.709677" note 2="#=0 % 77.419355" note 3="#=0 % 116.129032" note 4="#=0 % 154.838710" note 5="#=0 % 193.548387" note 6="#=0 % 232.258065" note 7="#=0 % 270.967742" note 8="#=0 % 309.677419" note 9="#=0 % 348.387097" note 10="#=0 % 387.096774" note 11="#=0 % 425.806452" note 12="#=0 % 464.516129" note 13="#=0 % 503.225806" note 14="#=0 % 541.935484" note 15="#=0 % 580.645161" note 16="#=0 % 619.354839" note 17="#=0 % 658.064516" note 18="#=0 % 696.774194" note 19="#=0 % 735.483871" note 20="#=0 % 774.193548" note 21="#=0 % 812.903226" note 22="#=0 % 851.612903" note 23="#=0 % 890.322581" note 24="#=0 % 929.032258" note 25="#=0 % 967.741935" note 26="#=0 % 1006.451613" note 27="#=0 % 1045.161290" note 28="#=0 % 1083.870968" note 29="#=0 % 1122.580645" note 30="#=0 % 1161.290323" note 31="#>-31 * 1200.000000 ~999"

; Set reference key to absolute frequency (not scale note but midi key) note 69="! 440.000000" [Scale End]

I followed the guy's directions, and that produced a file that I can use in Quanta but not Serum. I just noticed something strange, the file that works in Quanta is listed as "File" in my documents, and not "TUN File". I could produce a short video showing all of these things if that would help.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 4:47 PM Sean Archibald [email protected] wrote:

I don't see any significant difference between what you posted and the tun files I'm getting from Scale Workshop. I've made one extremely minor tweak, not sure if it will have an effect, and exported the 31edo tun file myself. I've just pasted it below, so if you get a chance please try that out and let me know if it works.

; VAZ Plus/AnaMark softsynth tuning file ; 31 equal divisions of 2/1 ; ; https://sevish.com/scaleworkshop-dev/?name=31%20equal%20divisions%20of%202%2F1&data=38.70967741935484%0A77.41935483870968%0A116.12903225806451%0A154.83870967741936%0A193.5483870967742%0A232.25806451612902%0A270.9677419354839%0A309.6774193548387%0A348.38709677419354%0A387.0967741935484%0A425.80645161290323%0A464.51612903225805%0A503.2258064516129%0A541.9354838709678%0A580.6451612903226%0A619.3548387096774%0A658.0645161290323%0A696.7741935483871%0A735.483870967742%0A774.1935483870968%0A812.9032258064516%0A851.6129032258065%0A890.3225806451613%0A929.0322580645161%0A967.741935483871%0A1006.4516129032259%0A1045.1612903225807%0A1083.8709677419356%0A1122.5806451612902%0A1161.2903225806451%0A1200.&freq=440&midi=69&vert=5&horiz=1&colors=white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black&waveform=triangle&ampenv=organ ; ; VAZ Plus section [Tuning] note 0=4229 note 1=4267 note 2=4306 note 3=4345 note 4=4383 note 5=4422 note 6=4461 note 7=4500 note 8=4538 note 9=4577 note 10=4616 note 11=4654 note 12=4693 note 13=4732 note 14=4770 note 15=4809 note 16=4848 note 17=4887 note 18=4925 note 19=4964 note 20=5003 note 21=5041 note 22=5080 note 23=5119 note 24=5158 note 25=5196 note 26=5235 note 27=5274 note 28=5312 note 29=5351 note 30=5390 note 31=5429 note 32=5467 note 33=5506 note 34=5545 note 35=5583 note 36=5622 note 37=5661 note 38=5700 note 39=5738 note 40=5777 note 41=5816 note 42=5854 note 43=5893 note 44=5932 note 45=5970 note 46=6009 note 47=6048 note 48=6087 note 49=6125 note 50=6164 note 51=6203 note 52=6241 note 53=6280 note 54=6319 note 55=6358 note 56=6396 note 57=6435 note 58=6474 note 59=6512 note 60=6551 note 61=6590 note 62=6629 note 63=6667 note 64=6706 note 65=6745 note 66=6783 note 67=6822 note 68=6861 note 69=6900 note 70=6938 note 71=6977 note 72=7016 note 73=7054 note 74=7093 note 75=7132 note 76=7170 note 77=7209 note 78=7248 note 79=7287 note 80=7325 note 81=7364 note 82=7403 note 83=7441 note 84=7480 note 85=7519 note 86=7558 note 87=7596 note 88=7635 note 89=7674 note 90=7712 note 91=7751 note 92=7790 note 93=7829 note 94=7867 note 95=7906 note 96=7945 note 97=7983 note 98=8022 note 99=8061 note 100=8100 note 101=8138 note 102=8177 note 103=8216 note 104=8254 note 105=8293 note 106=8332 note 107=8370 note 108=8409 note 109=8448 note 110=8487 note 111=8525 note 112=8564 note 113=8603 note 114=8641 note 115=8680 note 116=8719 note 117=8758 note 118=8796 note 119=8835 note 120=8874 note 121=8912 note 122=8951 note 123=8990 note 124=9029 note 125=9067 note 126=9106 note 127=9145

; AnaMark section [Scale Begin] Format= "AnaMark-TUN" FormatVersion= 100 FormatSpecs= "http://www.mark-henning.de/eternity/tuningspecs.html"

[Info] Name= "31 equal divisions of 2_1.tun" ID= "31equaldivisionsof2_1.tun" Filename= "31 equal divisions of 2_1.tun" Description= "31 equal divisions of 2/1" Date= "2020-12-22" Editor= "Scale Workshop 1.3"

[Exact Tuning] note 0= 4229.032258 note 1= 4267.741935 note 2= 4306.451613 note 3= 4345.161290 note 4= 4383.870968 note 5= 4422.580645 note 6= 4461.290323 note 7= 4500.000000 note 8= 4538.709677 note 9= 4577.419355 note 10= 4616.129032 note 11= 4654.838710 note 12= 4693.548387 note 13= 4732.258065 note 14= 4770.967742 note 15= 4809.677419 note 16= 4848.387097 note 17= 4887.096774 note 18= 4925.806452 note 19= 4964.516129 note 20= 5003.225806 note 21= 5041.935484 note 22= 5080.645161 note 23= 5119.354839 note 24= 5158.064516 note 25= 5196.774194 note 26= 5235.483871 note 27= 5274.193548 note 28= 5312.903226 note 29= 5351.612903 note 30= 5390.322581 note 31= 5429.032258 note 32= 5467.741935 note 33= 5506.451613 note 34= 5545.161290 note 35= 5583.870968 note 36= 5622.580645 note 37= 5661.290323 note 38= 5700.000000 note 39= 5738.709677 note 40= 5777.419355 note 41= 5816.129032 note 42= 5854.838710 note 43= 5893.548387 note 44= 5932.258065 note 45= 5970.967742 note 46= 6009.677419 note 47= 6048.387097 note 48= 6087.096774 note 49= 6125.806452 note 50= 6164.516129 note 51= 6203.225806 note 52= 6241.935484 note 53= 6280.645161 note 54= 6319.354839 note 55= 6358.064516 note 56= 6396.774194 note 57= 6435.483871 note 58= 6474.193548 note 59= 6512.903226 note 60= 6551.612903 note 61= 6590.322581 note 62= 6629.032258 note 63= 6667.741935 note 64= 6706.451613 note 65= 6745.161290 note 66= 6783.870968 note 67= 6822.580645 note 68= 6861.290323 note 69= 6900.000000 note 70= 6938.709677 note 71= 6977.419355 note 72= 7016.129032 note 73= 7054.838710 note 74= 7093.548387 note 75= 7132.258065 note 76= 7170.967742 note 77= 7209.677419 note 78= 7248.387097 note 79= 7287.096774 note 80= 7325.806452 note 81= 7364.516129 note 82= 7403.225806 note 83= 7441.935484 note 84= 7480.645161 note 85= 7519.354839 note 86= 7558.064516 note 87= 7596.774194 note 88= 7635.483871 note 89= 7674.193548 note 90= 7712.903226 note 91= 7751.612903 note 92= 7790.322581 note 93= 7829.032258 note 94= 7867.741935 note 95= 7906.451613 note 96= 7945.161290 note 97= 7983.870968 note 98= 8022.580645 note 99= 8061.290323 note 100= 8100.000000 note 101= 8138.709677 note 102= 8177.419355 note 103= 8216.129032 note 104= 8254.838710 note 105= 8293.548387 note 106= 8332.258065 note 107= 8370.967742 note 108= 8409.677419 note 109= 8448.387097 note 110= 8487.096774 note 111= 8525.806452 note 112= 8564.516129 note 113= 8603.225806 note 114= 8641.935484 note 115= 8680.645161 note 116= 8719.354839 note 117= 8758.064516 note 118= 8796.774194 note 119= 8835.483871 note 120= 8874.193548 note 121= 8912.903226 note 122= 8951.612903 note 123= 8990.322581 note 124= 9029.032258 note 125= 9067.741935 note 126= 9106.451613 note 127= 9145.161290

[Scale End]

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stewartmiller784 avatar Dec 22 '20 22:12 stewartmiller784

Here's another tun v1 file that I have stripped back to the absolute basics. Does this one work in both Quanta and Serum?

; VAZ Plus/AnaMark softsynth tuning file ; 31 equal divisions of 2/1 ; ; https://sevish.com/scaleworkshop-dev/?name=31%20equal%20divisions%20of%202%2F1&data=38.70967741935484%0A77.41935483870968%0A116.12903225806451%0A154.83870967741936%0A193.5483870967742%0A232.25806451612902%0A270.9677419354839%0A309.6774193548387%0A348.38709677419354%0A387.0967741935484%0A425.80645161290323%0A464.51612903225805%0A503.2258064516129%0A541.9354838709678%0A580.6451612903226%0A619.3548387096774%0A658.0645161290323%0A696.7741935483871%0A735.483870967742%0A774.1935483870968%0A812.9032258064516%0A851.6129032258065%0A890.3225806451613%0A929.0322580645161%0A967.741935483871%0A1006.4516129032259%0A1045.1612903225807%0A1083.8709677419356%0A1122.5806451612902%0A1161.2903225806451%0A1200.&freq=440&midi=69&vert=5&horiz=1&colors=white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black&waveform=triangle&ampenv=organ ; ; VAZ Plus section [Tuning] note 0=4229 note 1=4267 note 2=4306 note 3=4345 note 4=4383 note 5=4422 note 6=4461 note 7=4500 note 8=4538 note 9=4577 note 10=4616 note 11=4654 note 12=4693 note 13=4732 note 14=4770 note 15=4809 note 16=4848 note 17=4887 note 18=4925 note 19=4964 note 20=5003 note 21=5041 note 22=5080 note 23=5119 note 24=5158 note 25=5196 note 26=5235 note 27=5274 note 28=5312 note 29=5351 note 30=5390 note 31=5429 note 32=5467 note 33=5506 note 34=5545 note 35=5583 note 36=5622 note 37=5661 note 38=5700 note 39=5738 note 40=5777 note 41=5816 note 42=5854 note 43=5893 note 44=5932 note 45=5970 note 46=6009 note 47=6048 note 48=6087 note 49=6125 note 50=6164 note 51=6203 note 52=6241 note 53=6280 note 54=6319 note 55=6358 note 56=6396 note 57=6435 note 58=6474 note 59=6512 note 60=6551 note 61=6590 note 62=6629 note 63=6667 note 64=6706 note 65=6745 note 66=6783 note 67=6822 note 68=6861 note 69=6900 note 70=6938 note 71=6977 note 72=7016 note 73=7054 note 74=7093 note 75=7132 note 76=7170 note 77=7209 note 78=7248 note 79=7287 note 80=7325 note 81=7364 note 82=7403 note 83=7441 note 84=7480 note 85=7519 note 86=7558 note 87=7596 note 88=7635 note 89=7674 note 90=7712 note 91=7751 note 92=7790 note 93=7829 note 94=7867 note 95=7906 note 96=7945 note 97=7983 note 98=8022 note 99=8061 note 100=8100 note 101=8138 note 102=8177 note 103=8216 note 104=8254 note 105=8293 note 106=8332 note 107=8370 note 108=8409 note 109=8448 note 110=8487 note 111=8525 note 112=8564 note 113=8603 note 114=8641 note 115=8680 note 116=8719 note 117=8758 note 118=8796 note 119=8835 note 120=8874 note 121=8912 note 122=8951 note 123=8990 note 124=9029 note 125=9067 note 126=9106 note 127=9145

[Exact Tuning] note 0= 4229.032258 note 1= 4267.741935 note 2= 4306.451613 note 3= 4345.161290 note 4= 4383.870968 note 5= 4422.580645 note 6= 4461.290323 note 7= 4500.000000 note 8= 4538.709677 note 9= 4577.419355 note 10= 4616.129032 note 11= 4654.838710 note 12= 4693.548387 note 13= 4732.258065 note 14= 4770.967742 note 15= 4809.677419 note 16= 4848.387097 note 17= 4887.096774 note 18= 4925.806452 note 19= 4964.516129 note 20= 5003.225806 note 21= 5041.935484 note 22= 5080.645161 note 23= 5119.354839 note 24= 5158.064516 note 25= 5196.774194 note 26= 5235.483871 note 27= 5274.193548 note 28= 5312.903226 note 29= 5351.612903 note 30= 5390.322581 note 31= 5429.032258 note 32= 5467.741935 note 33= 5506.451613 note 34= 5545.161290 note 35= 5583.870968 note 36= 5622.580645 note 37= 5661.290323 note 38= 5700.000000 note 39= 5738.709677 note 40= 5777.419355 note 41= 5816.129032 note 42= 5854.838710 note 43= 5893.548387 note 44= 5932.258065 note 45= 5970.967742 note 46= 6009.677419 note 47= 6048.387097 note 48= 6087.096774 note 49= 6125.806452 note 50= 6164.516129 note 51= 6203.225806 note 52= 6241.935484 note 53= 6280.645161 note 54= 6319.354839 note 55= 6358.064516 note 56= 6396.774194 note 57= 6435.483871 note 58= 6474.193548 note 59= 6512.903226 note 60= 6551.612903 note 61= 6590.322581 note 62= 6629.032258 note 63= 6667.741935 note 64= 6706.451613 note 65= 6745.161290 note 66= 6783.870968 note 67= 6822.580645 note 68= 6861.290323 note 69= 6900.000000 note 70= 6938.709677 note 71= 6977.419355 note 72= 7016.129032 note 73= 7054.838710 note 74= 7093.548387 note 75= 7132.258065 note 76= 7170.967742 note 77= 7209.677419 note 78= 7248.387097 note 79= 7287.096774 note 80= 7325.806452 note 81= 7364.516129 note 82= 7403.225806 note 83= 7441.935484 note 84= 7480.645161 note 85= 7519.354839 note 86= 7558.064516 note 87= 7596.774194 note 88= 7635.483871 note 89= 7674.193548 note 90= 7712.903226 note 91= 7751.612903 note 92= 7790.322581 note 93= 7829.032258 note 94= 7867.741935 note 95= 7906.451613 note 96= 7945.161290 note 97= 7983.870968 note 98= 8022.580645 note 99= 8061.290323 note 100= 8100.000000 note 101= 8138.709677 note 102= 8177.419355 note 103= 8216.129032 note 104= 8254.838710 note 105= 8293.548387 note 106= 8332.258065 note 107= 8370.967742 note 108= 8409.677419 note 109= 8448.387097 note 110= 8487.096774 note 111= 8525.806452 note 112= 8564.516129 note 113= 8603.225806 note 114= 8641.935484 note 115= 8680.645161 note 116= 8719.354839 note 117= 8758.064516 note 118= 8796.774194 note 119= 8835.483871 note 120= 8874.193548 note 121= 8912.903226 note 122= 8951.612903 note 123= 8990.322581 note 124= 9029.032258 note 125= 9067.741935 note 126= 9106.451613 note 127= 9145.161290

SeanArchibald avatar Dec 23 '20 11:12 SeanArchibald

The one I download from the link gets the defaulting behavior. Do I need to copy all the text and put it into Notepad++?

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 6:44 AM Sean Archibald [email protected] wrote:

Here's another tun v1 file that I have stripped back to the absolute basics. Does this one work in both Quanta and Serum?

; VAZ Plus/AnaMark softsynth tuning file ; 31 equal divisions of 2/1 ; ; https://sevish.com/scaleworkshop-dev/?name=31%20equal%20divisions%20of%202%2F1&data=38.70967741935484%0A77.41935483870968%0A116.12903225806451%0A154.83870967741936%0A193.5483870967742%0A232.25806451612902%0A270.9677419354839%0A309.6774193548387%0A348.38709677419354%0A387.0967741935484%0A425.80645161290323%0A464.51612903225805%0A503.2258064516129%0A541.9354838709678%0A580.6451612903226%0A619.3548387096774%0A658.0645161290323%0A696.7741935483871%0A735.483870967742%0A774.1935483870968%0A812.9032258064516%0A851.6129032258065%0A890.3225806451613%0A929.0322580645161%0A967.741935483871%0A1006.4516129032259%0A1045.1612903225807%0A1083.8709677419356%0A1122.5806451612902%0A1161.2903225806451%0A1200.&freq=440&midi=69&vert=5&horiz=1&colors=white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black&waveform=triangle&ampenv=organ ; ; VAZ Plus section [Tuning] note 0=4229 note 1=4267 note 2=4306 note 3=4345 note 4=4383 note 5=4422 note 6=4461 note 7=4500 note 8=4538 note 9=4577 note 10=4616 note 11=4654 note 12=4693 note 13=4732 note 14=4770 note 15=4809 note 16=4848 note 17=4887 note 18=4925 note 19=4964 note 20=5003 note 21=5041 note 22=5080 note 23=5119 note 24=5158 note 25=5196 note 26=5235 note 27=5274 note 28=5312 note 29=5351 note 30=5390 note 31=5429 note 32=5467 note 33=5506 note 34=5545 note 35=5583 note 36=5622 note 37=5661 note 38=5700 note 39=5738 note 40=5777 note 41=5816 note 42=5854 note 43=5893 note 44=5932 note 45=5970 note 46=6009 note 47=6048 note 48=6087 note 49=6125 note 50=6164 note 51=6203 note 52=6241 note 53=6280 note 54=6319 note 55=6358 note 56=6396 note 57=6435 note 58=6474 note 59=6512 note 60=6551 note 61=6590 note 62=6629 note 63=6667 note 64=6706 note 65=6745 note 66=6783 note 67=6822 note 68=6861 note 69=6900 note 70=6938 note 71=6977 note 72=7016 note 73=7054 note 74=7093 note 75=7132 note 76=7170 note 77=7209 note 78=7248 note 79=7287 note 80=7325 note 81=7364 note 82=7403 note 83=7441 note 84=7480 note 85=7519 note 86=7558 note 87=7596 note 88=7635 note 89=7674 note 90=7712 note 91=7751 note 92=7790 note 93=7829 note 94=7867 note 95=7906 note 96=7945 note 97=7983 note 98=8022 note 99=8061 note 100=8100 note 101=8138 note 102=8177 note 103=8216 note 104=8254 note 105=8293 note 106=8332 note 107=8370 note 108=8409 note 109=8448 note 110=8487 note 111=8525 note 112=8564 note 113=8603 note 114=8641 note 115=8680 note 116=8719 note 117=8758 note 118=8796 note 119=8835 note 120=8874 note 121=8912 note 122=8951 note 123=8990 note 124=9029 note 125=9067 note 126=9106 note 127=9145

[Exact Tuning] note 0= 4229.032258 note 1= 4267.741935 note 2= 4306.451613 note 3= 4345.161290 note 4= 4383.870968 note 5= 4422.580645 note 6= 4461.290323 note 7= 4500.000000 note 8= 4538.709677 note 9= 4577.419355 note 10= 4616.129032 note 11= 4654.838710 note 12= 4693.548387 note 13= 4732.258065 note 14= 4770.967742 note 15= 4809.677419 note 16= 4848.387097 note 17= 4887.096774 note 18= 4925.806452 note 19= 4964.516129 note 20= 5003.225806 note 21= 5041.935484 note 22= 5080.645161 note 23= 5119.354839 note 24= 5158.064516 note 25= 5196.774194 note 26= 5235.483871 note 27= 5274.193548 note 28= 5312.903226 note 29= 5351.612903 note 30= 5390.322581 note 31= 5429.032258 note 32= 5467.741935 note 33= 5506.451613 note 34= 5545.161290 note 35= 5583.870968 note 36= 5622.580645 note 37= 5661.290323 note 38= 5700.000000 note 39= 5738.709677 note 40= 5777.419355 note 41= 5816.129032 note 42= 5854.838710 note 43= 5893.548387 note 44= 5932.258065 note 45= 5970.967742 note 46= 6009.677419 note 47= 6048.387097 note 48= 6087.096774 note 49= 6125.806452 note 50= 6164.516129 note 51= 6203.225806 note 52= 6241.935484 note 53= 6280.645161 note 54= 6319.354839 note 55= 6358.064516 note 56= 6396.774194 note 57= 6435.483871 note 58= 6474.193548 note 59= 6512.903226 note 60= 6551.612903 note 61= 6590.322581 note 62= 6629.032258 note 63= 6667.741935 note 64= 6706.451613 note 65= 6745.161290 note 66= 6783.870968 note 67= 6822.580645 note 68= 6861.290323 note 69= 6900.000000 note 70= 6938.709677 note 71= 6977.419355 note 72= 7016.129032 note 73= 7054.838710 note 74= 7093.548387 note 75= 7132.258065 note 76= 7170.967742 note 77= 7209.677419 note 78= 7248.387097 note 79= 7287.096774 note 80= 7325.806452 note 81= 7364.516129 note 82= 7403.225806 note 83= 7441.935484 note 84= 7480.645161 note 85= 7519.354839 note 86= 7558.064516 note 87= 7596.774194 note 88= 7635.483871 note 89= 7674.193548 note 90= 7712.903226 note 91= 7751.612903 note 92= 7790.322581 note 93= 7829.032258 note 94= 7867.741935 note 95= 7906.451613 note 96= 7945.161290 note 97= 7983.870968 note 98= 8022.580645 note 99= 8061.290323 note 100= 8100.000000 note 101= 8138.709677 note 102= 8177.419355 note 103= 8216.129032 note 104= 8254.838710 note 105= 8293.548387 note 106= 8332.258065 note 107= 8370.967742 note 108= 8409.677419 note 109= 8448.387097 note 110= 8487.096774 note 111= 8525.806452 note 112= 8564.516129 note 113= 8603.225806 note 114= 8641.935484 note 115= 8680.645161 note 116= 8719.354839 note 117= 8758.064516 note 118= 8796.774194 note 119= 8835.483871 note 120= 8874.193548 note 121= 8912.903226 note 122= 8951.612903 note 123= 8990.322581 note 124= 9029.032258 note 125= 9067.741935 note 126= 9106.451613 note 127= 9145.161290

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stewartmiller784 avatar Dec 24 '20 02:12 stewartmiller784

Tried it in both Serum and Quanta. There's not even an error message, they just act like the file is invalid and default to 12edo.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 9:29 PM Stewart Miller [email protected] wrote:

The one I download from the link gets the defaulting behavior. Do I need to copy all the text and put it into Notepad++?

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 6:44 AM Sean Archibald [email protected] wrote:

Here's another tun v1 file that I have stripped back to the absolute basics. Does this one work in both Quanta and Serum?

; VAZ Plus/AnaMark softsynth tuning file ; 31 equal divisions of 2/1 ; ; https://sevish.com/scaleworkshop-dev/?name=31%20equal%20divisions%20of%202%2F1&data=38.70967741935484%0A77.41935483870968%0A116.12903225806451%0A154.83870967741936%0A193.5483870967742%0A232.25806451612902%0A270.9677419354839%0A309.6774193548387%0A348.38709677419354%0A387.0967741935484%0A425.80645161290323%0A464.51612903225805%0A503.2258064516129%0A541.9354838709678%0A580.6451612903226%0A619.3548387096774%0A658.0645161290323%0A696.7741935483871%0A735.483870967742%0A774.1935483870968%0A812.9032258064516%0A851.6129032258065%0A890.3225806451613%0A929.0322580645161%0A967.741935483871%0A1006.4516129032259%0A1045.1612903225807%0A1083.8709677419356%0A1122.5806451612902%0A1161.2903225806451%0A1200.&freq=440&midi=69&vert=5&horiz=1&colors=white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black&waveform=triangle&ampenv=organ ; ; VAZ Plus section [Tuning] note 0=4229 note 1=4267 note 2=4306 note 3=4345 note 4=4383 note 5=4422 note 6=4461 note 7=4500 note 8=4538 note 9=4577 note 10=4616 note 11=4654 note 12=4693 note 13=4732 note 14=4770 note 15=4809 note 16=4848 note 17=4887 note 18=4925 note 19=4964 note 20=5003 note 21=5041 note 22=5080 note 23=5119 note 24=5158 note 25=5196 note 26=5235 note 27=5274 note 28=5312 note 29=5351 note 30=5390 note 31=5429 note 32=5467 note 33=5506 note 34=5545 note 35=5583 note 36=5622 note 37=5661 note 38=5700 note 39=5738 note 40=5777 note 41=5816 note 42=5854 note 43=5893 note 44=5932 note 45=5970 note 46=6009 note 47=6048 note 48=6087 note 49=6125 note 50=6164 note 51=6203 note 52=6241 note 53=6280 note 54=6319 note 55=6358 note 56=6396 note 57=6435 note 58=6474 note 59=6512 note 60=6551 note 61=6590 note 62=6629 note 63=6667 note 64=6706 note 65=6745 note 66=6783 note 67=6822 note 68=6861 note 69=6900 note 70=6938 note 71=6977 note 72=7016 note 73=7054 note 74=7093 note 75=7132 note 76=7170 note 77=7209 note 78=7248 note 79=7287 note 80=7325 note 81=7364 note 82=7403 note 83=7441 note 84=7480 note 85=7519 note 86=7558 note 87=7596 note 88=7635 note 89=7674 note 90=7712 note 91=7751 note 92=7790 note 93=7829 note 94=7867 note 95=7906 note 96=7945 note 97=7983 note 98=8022 note 99=8061 note 100=8100 note 101=8138 note 102=8177 note 103=8216 note 104=8254 note 105=8293 note 106=8332 note 107=8370 note 108=8409 note 109=8448 note 110=8487 note 111=8525 note 112=8564 note 113=8603 note 114=8641 note 115=8680 note 116=8719 note 117=8758 note 118=8796 note 119=8835 note 120=8874 note 121=8912 note 122=8951 note 123=8990 note 124=9029 note 125=9067 note 126=9106 note 127=9145

[Exact Tuning] note 0= 4229.032258 note 1= 4267.741935 note 2= 4306.451613 note 3= 4345.161290 note 4= 4383.870968 note 5= 4422.580645 note 6= 4461.290323 note 7= 4500.000000 note 8= 4538.709677 note 9= 4577.419355 note 10= 4616.129032 note 11= 4654.838710 note 12= 4693.548387 note 13= 4732.258065 note 14= 4770.967742 note 15= 4809.677419 note 16= 4848.387097 note 17= 4887.096774 note 18= 4925.806452 note 19= 4964.516129 note 20= 5003.225806 note 21= 5041.935484 note 22= 5080.645161 note 23= 5119.354839 note 24= 5158.064516 note 25= 5196.774194 note 26= 5235.483871 note 27= 5274.193548 note 28= 5312.903226 note 29= 5351.612903 note 30= 5390.322581 note 31= 5429.032258 note 32= 5467.741935 note 33= 5506.451613 note 34= 5545.161290 note 35= 5583.870968 note 36= 5622.580645 note 37= 5661.290323 note 38= 5700.000000 note 39= 5738.709677 note 40= 5777.419355 note 41= 5816.129032 note 42= 5854.838710 note 43= 5893.548387 note 44= 5932.258065 note 45= 5970.967742 note 46= 6009.677419 note 47= 6048.387097 note 48= 6087.096774 note 49= 6125.806452 note 50= 6164.516129 note 51= 6203.225806 note 52= 6241.935484 note 53= 6280.645161 note 54= 6319.354839 note 55= 6358.064516 note 56= 6396.774194 note 57= 6435.483871 note 58= 6474.193548 note 59= 6512.903226 note 60= 6551.612903 note 61= 6590.322581 note 62= 6629.032258 note 63= 6667.741935 note 64= 6706.451613 note 65= 6745.161290 note 66= 6783.870968 note 67= 6822.580645 note 68= 6861.290323 note 69= 6900.000000 note 70= 6938.709677 note 71= 6977.419355 note 72= 7016.129032 note 73= 7054.838710 note 74= 7093.548387 note 75= 7132.258065 note 76= 7170.967742 note 77= 7209.677419 note 78= 7248.387097 note 79= 7287.096774 note 80= 7325.806452 note 81= 7364.516129 note 82= 7403.225806 note 83= 7441.935484 note 84= 7480.645161 note 85= 7519.354839 note 86= 7558.064516 note 87= 7596.774194 note 88= 7635.483871 note 89= 7674.193548 note 90= 7712.903226 note 91= 7751.612903 note 92= 7790.322581 note 93= 7829.032258 note 94= 7867.741935 note 95= 7906.451613 note 96= 7945.161290 note 97= 7983.870968 note 98= 8022.580645 note 99= 8061.290323 note 100= 8100.000000 note 101= 8138.709677 note 102= 8177.419355 note 103= 8216.129032 note 104= 8254.838710 note 105= 8293.548387 note 106= 8332.258065 note 107= 8370.967742 note 108= 8409.677419 note 109= 8448.387097 note 110= 8487.096774 note 111= 8525.806452 note 112= 8564.516129 note 113= 8603.225806 note 114= 8641.935484 note 115= 8680.645161 note 116= 8719.354839 note 117= 8758.064516 note 118= 8796.774194 note 119= 8835.483871 note 120= 8874.193548 note 121= 8912.903226 note 122= 8951.612903 note 123= 8990.322581 note 124= 9029.032258 note 125= 9067.741935 note 126= 9106.451613 note 127= 9145.161290

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stewartmiller784 avatar Dec 24 '20 02:12 stewartmiller784

It sounds to me like Quanta doesn't support v1 files. Without having access to these synths myself it's difficult to troubleshoot any further. Thanks for your help testing.

I'm going to press ahead with testing the minor changes I have made to Scale Workshop TUN export, with whatever TUN-capable synths I have, as I believe it will fix an issue with Omnisphere and hopefully won't break support elsewhere.

SeanArchibald avatar Dec 24 '20 12:12 SeanArchibald

I think the issue here was on my side - the long URL in the comment. Scale Workshop 1.4 now avoids writing such long URLs into a tun v1 file.

Please could you try again to export a v1 tun file from Scale Workshop, put it in Serum/Quanta and let me know if it's fixed or not?

SeanArchibald avatar Oct 04 '21 09:10 SeanArchibald

Just tried it, the file works in Serum but not Quanta. Quanta is acting like it can't read the file and defaults.

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I think the issue here was on my side - the long URL in the comment. Scale Workshop 1.4 now avoids writing such long URLs into a tun v1 file.

Please could you try again to export a v1 tun file from Scale Workshop, put it in Serum/Quanta and let me know if it's fixed or not?

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stewartmiller784 avatar Oct 04 '21 16:10 stewartmiller784

Looks like Quanta have a demo that supports my OS, so I can give this a try myself some time

SeanArchibald avatar Oct 05 '21 14:10 SeanArchibald

It's pretty sweet. I've started using MTS-ESP, to save that 10 seconds or so of loading in tuning files every time.

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Looks like Quanta have a demo that supports my OS, so I can give this a try myself some time

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