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Hanging Mechanism Designs

Open eaudiffred opened this issue 2 years ago • 2 comments

Opening this issue to improve our sensor hanging features.

@muditprotect3d has already started with some great designs that can be incorporated to the sensor! These are posted in issue #163, but we will continue the conversation here.

eaudiffred avatar Oct 13 '22 14:10 eaudiffred

@muditprotect3d, just following up on some of the designs you posted. These two are my favorites because they seem the most versatile while remaining simple. What ideas do you have on how to integrate them into the sensor? Thanks again for the work you are putting into improving the hanging methods!

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eaudiffred avatar Oct 17 '22 16:10 eaudiffred

I was thinking that we should put them onto the back of the enclosure right below the shroud head, but I want to do some experimenting to see where these would fit best!

muditprotect3d avatar Oct 18 '22 16:10 muditprotect3d

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muditprotect3d avatar Nov 21 '22 02:11 muditprotect3d

Here is a design that I mocked up, the hooks are linear and not curved in this case but another option we could consider

muditprotect3d avatar Nov 21 '22 02:11 muditprotect3d

Thanks @muditprotect3d. One concern with this is that we are currently printing the enclosure with the back flat on the print bed. We could rotate it 90deg and have the bottom on the print bed, but then I think we will still need supports on the inside.

What do you think about modifying the top of the head to be modular. We could then have multiple types of hooks that the builder can choose from and attach to their frog. Maybe some kind of block and pin? image

If the head isn't the right spot, then maybe the back of the shroud? The multiple different hook designs you've come up with could then be interchangeable.

eaudiffred avatar Nov 21 '22 15:11 eaudiffred

That sounds like a good idea to me, how would we go about making this modular? I think that way we could utilize multiple different hooks and the user could simply decide which ones they wanted to include -- how would they attach them on?

muditprotect3d avatar Nov 24 '22 15:11 muditprotect3d

Then all I would have to do is adjust the dimensions of all the different hook designs to fit the modular fit of the head

muditprotect3d avatar Nov 24 '22 15:11 muditprotect3d

https://github.com/Ribbit-Network/ribbit-network-frog-sensor/issues/163#issuecomment-1331165501

muditprotect3d avatar Nov 29 '22 19:11 muditprotect3d

Moving comment over here about modular hooks @eaudiffred

muditprotect3d avatar Nov 29 '22 19:11 muditprotect3d

I was thinking about something like this. But it's kind of bulky.
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eaudiffred avatar Nov 30 '22 00:11 eaudiffred

#163 (comment)

I like the idea of having multiple options for the user. Are you thinking the frog unit would always remain the same, but then we can design different hooks that latch onto attachment points available on the frog? Like this? (It's very basic, but just an example) image

eaudiffred avatar Nov 30 '22 16:11 eaudiffred

Yeah! This is exactly what I meant - this way the user could print whatever hook would fit best for where they want to deploy the sensor and we could make the attachment mechanisms the same

muditprotect3d avatar Nov 30 '22 17:11 muditprotect3d

One lingering thought from the meeting-- if we go with the modular hook design, depending on the difficulty, price, and how we end up shipping out the enclosures, it might make sense to print out all of the X hook options ourselves with each enclosure instead of relying on the receiver/orderer to print one of the hooks out, just to make the deployment process easier. I like the idea!

akhilgupta1093 avatar Dec 02 '22 00:12 akhilgupta1093

@akhilgupta1093 that's a good point! I think that would definitely be something important to consider for the deployment stage. Luckily the hooks should not take much time or material to use!

muditprotect3d avatar Dec 04 '22 19:12 muditprotect3d

Screen Shot 2022-12-04 at 2 34 59 PM First modular hook design! -- going to run some test prints at the end of the day and see how they all work

muditprotect3d avatar Dec 04 '22 19:12 muditprotect3d

Screen Shot 2022-12-04 at 2 55 54 PM Another design meant for hanging off of a flat surface

muditprotect3d avatar Dec 04 '22 19:12 muditprotect3d

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muditprotect3d avatar Dec 04 '22 20:12 muditprotect3d

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muditprotect3d avatar Dec 05 '22 22:12 muditprotect3d

39E999E4-D295-4796-923F-FD3327231FEC Test prints for the two hook designs I made

muditprotect3d avatar Dec 05 '22 22:12 muditprotect3d

Working on making the first design a little larger and come up with 1-2 more designs!

muditprotect3d avatar Dec 05 '22 22:12 muditprotect3d

Looks great so far @muditprotect3d !

My feedback would be that I think there needs to be a larger retention feature holding the loop of the Frog Sensor's head on the hook. It sometimes gets quite windy where I am located and with the designs you've shown above, I don't feel quite confident that the wind won't blow the Frog off of the hook.

keenanjohnson avatar Dec 05 '22 22:12 keenanjohnson

@keenanjohnson That's a good point ! for the second design ( wall hook) I tolerance it very tightly so it fits on with very very little movement so I think that one may be fine for that issue but I do agree the S hook would need to be bigger and have a better retention method. If you want to see what I mean with the tolerancing for the wall hook I can attach the STL file here for a test print?

muditprotect3d avatar Dec 05 '22 22:12 muditprotect3d

Or attach it in discord -- GitHub won't let me attach an STL

muditprotect3d avatar Dec 05 '22 22:12 muditprotect3d

That makes sense, however, I get nervous anytime anyone says that they specified a tight tolerance with a 3D printed part. Given the variability with different 3D printers, it always best to have a backup as well. I believe if you just added an upwards lip on the end of the arm the Frog attaches to that would be sufficient?

keenanjohnson avatar Dec 05 '22 22:12 keenanjohnson

Something like this: 205512457-67519ec6-4a1c-4b9f-b45d-abbbfbd63338

keenanjohnson avatar Dec 05 '22 22:12 keenanjohnson

@keenanjohnson yeah I did not think about that -- very different tolerances from printer to printer. I like that idea and can definitely do that tonight!

muditprotect3d avatar Dec 05 '22 22:12 muditprotect3d

Or perhaps better yet could be some captive feature like this? 205512457-67519ec6-4a1c-4b9f-b45d-abbbfbd63338

keenanjohnson avatar Dec 05 '22 22:12 keenanjohnson

I like this -- I would have to try some test prints to make Sure the sensor can be hooked over it and have enough clearance but can definitely do that!

muditprotect3d avatar Dec 05 '22 23:12 muditprotect3d

Screen Shot 2022-12-05 at 6 56 52 PM @keenanjohnson thoughts?

muditprotect3d avatar Dec 05 '22 23:12 muditprotect3d

or were u thinking more of what you sent in the second picture?

muditprotect3d avatar Dec 05 '22 23:12 muditprotect3d