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Chameleon Ultra not able to emulate em410x cards

Open wintersushi opened this issue 1 year ago • 13 comments

Recently got a myself a Chameleon Ultra, using the Gui i was able to emulate, write and copy HF cards. Although, all of the LF rfid cards i have tried to emulate do not seem to work. I've tried a handful of different cards, as well as updating the firmware and clearing the slots.

I am a beginner with all this but even when reading through the forums and watching videos, everyone seems to simply scan the card with the LF scanner, copy the UID and it works. I'm wondering if i'm missing something or if anyone has experienced anything similar and could help resolving this issue?

wintersushi avatar May 21 '24 08:05 wintersushi

https://github.com/RfidResearchGroup/ChameleonUltra/blob/main/docs/troubleshooting.md

Or you might be affected by #175

GameTec-live avatar May 21 '24 10:05 GameTec-live

https://github.com/RfidResearchGroup/ChameleonUltra/blob/main/docs/troubleshooting.md

Or you might be affected by #175

I'm a little confused, if I can read the LF cards and copy it onto the Chameleon - how can it have glue blocking it and interfering with the emulation?

wintersushi avatar May 21 '24 11:05 wintersushi

Ah, you can read the cards... Then there being glue doesnt really make sense...

GameTec-live avatar May 21 '24 11:05 GameTec-live

Ah, you can read the cards... Then there being glue doesnt really make sense...

Yeah! I can read the LF cards and get the UID with no issue but whenever I try to emulate them with the chameleon, the blue and white light will turn on while next to the sensor but nothing happens.

Only in one instance did it miraculously work, I tried hovering it over the sensor in different positions and different angles of the chameleon - maybe 1/10 times does it work for that one card.

So I'm not sure if this is stupid question, and I'm suppose to have more than the UID or steps I've missed when copying the card?

wintersushi avatar May 21 '24 11:05 wintersushi

Nope, that seems to be correct... probably a modulation issue or similar like in #175 then...

GameTec-live avatar May 21 '24 11:05 GameTec-live

Ah lucky one. I can read LF cards only on 1.0 firmware, but UID is always 00000000. On 2.0 I’m getting an error “No card found, try to move Chameleon on card”

Nextery avatar May 24 '24 08:05 Nextery

Ah lucky one. I can read LF cards only on 1.0 firmware, but UID is always 00000000. On 2.0 I’m getting an error “No card found, try to move Chameleon on card”

I just got the Chameleon ultra as well an am facing this exact same issue. Any solutions for this so far?

kayantoast avatar Jul 02 '24 05:07 kayantoast

Ah lucky one. I can read LF cards only on 1.0 firmware, but UID is always 00000000. On 2.0 I’m getting an error “No card found, try to move Chameleon on card”

I just got the Chameleon ultra as well an am facing this exact same issue. Any solutions for this so far?

Contact your seller and get the replacement of the bottom board. It will solve the issues.

whywilson avatar Jul 03 '24 03:07 whywilson

Contact your seller and get the replacement of the bottom board. It will solve the issues.

I have exactly the same problem. My device does not emulate LF cards. I ordered from indiegogo about a year ago. How can I contact the seller for the bottom board replacement?

ffcrus avatar Aug 07 '24 07:08 ffcrus

Hello, I'm sorry to bring up the thread and it might be a stupid question. In my case, I can emulate lf without any problem, the issue is that I can't clone lf tags. I have a tag that works well emulating, but when it comes to writing on an EM410x tag, the only writing option that allows me is T5577. Is this normal? Is writing to EM410X cards not possible?

Mawa000 avatar Jun 16 '25 10:06 Mawa000

Contact your seller and get the replacement of the bottom board. It will solve the issues.

I have exactly the same problem. My device does not emulate LF cards. I ordered from indiegogo about a year ago. How can I contact the seller for the bottom board replacement?

I'm in the same boat as I ordered from Indiegogo ... in April 2023. Did you find an answer to getting a new bottom board?

brianbgarber avatar Jun 16 '25 16:06 brianbgarber

I just changed the device and it worked, what was the problem, I didn't figure it out, всем добра

вт, 17 июн. 2025 г., 01:10 brianbgarber @.***>:

brianbgarber left a comment (RfidResearchGroup/ChameleonUltra#214) https://github.com/RfidResearchGroup/ChameleonUltra/issues/214#issuecomment-2977230864

Contact your seller and get the replacement of the bottom board. It will solve the issues.

I have exactly the same problem. My device does not emulate LF cards. I ordered from indiegogo about a year ago. How can I contact the seller for the bottom board replacement?

I'm in the same boat as I ordered from Indiegogo ... in April 2023. Did you find an answer to getting a new bottom board?

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Aleks1958 avatar Jun 16 '25 16:06 Aleks1958

"I answer myself. If no one corrects me, I think I have read that the Chameleon Ultra only has the ability to write tags in T5577 format, which should be compatible with EM4100 readers. However, it is not possible to write directly to EM4100 tags.

Mawa000 avatar Jun 17 '25 12:06 Mawa000