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How does a player create a Foulborn item?

Open grish333 opened this issue 1 month ago • 5 comments

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What platform are you running Path of Building on?

Windows

Is your feature request related to a problem?

I am having hard time creating foulborn items in PoB. Either I am blind or there is no setting that would allow me to choose what mods I want to put on an item that's foulborn. I am not asking/discussing adding an item manually by copying data from the game or trade.

Describe the solution you'd like

I expected to be able to create a foulborn unique in a similar way as the betrayal items. For example, if I was to add a Bitterbind point shield on my build, it would allo..... oh wait. This is a whole new report to make. Okay, let's say that I want to create Cane of Kulemak - there would be drop-down menus that will allow me to choose which mods I want on the staff.

Describe alternatives you've considered

I am not sure if manually adding the items instead is a good or bad solution (for the long term) because it is unknown whether these foulborn items will exist in the game in future leagues. But I know that they will exist in Standard. I know that previous similar items also exist in PoB - such as Scourge and Crucible items for example.

Additional context

Thank you for all your work. I spend more than 50% of my game time in PoB and I really appreciate it. I hope you appreciate my feedbacks.

grish333 avatar Nov 24 '25 12:11 grish333

This is correct, we haven't implemented adding a Foulborn item in PoB yet. This is because A) the modifiers aren't dataminable, which means we'd have to pull the details from the trade site and port it manually to PoB; and B) The way our uniques are currently stored doesn't make it easy to swap out modifiers for foulborn ones.

We've been prioritizing adding support for each modifier so they can at least work in PoB when imported, but adding edit support requires a lot more effort that may not be worth it if foulborn uniques aren't sticking around.

Wires77 avatar Nov 24 '25 14:11 Wires77

https://poedb.tw/us/Foulborn

I am definitely not pushing anything but rather curious. There are Scourge and Crucible items already in PoB (and seem rather more complicated to be implemented than the foulborn).

grish333 avatar Nov 24 '25 16:11 grish333

That link was parsed from the trade website. We avoid parsing the trade website because it's unreliable at league start and takes a long time due to rate limits.

Scourge and Crucible mods are datamined and can be put into buckets based on item type. Foulborn mods replace specific lines on a specific unique item, which are not tagged at all in our unique database right now (and would have to be done manually somehow if that's the direction we go in). Scourge/Crucible mods are additive to an item, so they don't care about existing mods on the item (other than the scourge/crucible mods they're replacing).

Wires77 avatar Nov 24 '25 16:11 Wires77

So, I guess that if you were to add the Foulborn mods, it has to be made in a way that on creating a new unique item, upon choosing a certain Foulborn modifier, the corresponding base modifier should gray out becoming unavailable. And I think you're right, it feels like it should be done manually as it is not additive but with dependence within each of the foulborn items. Thank you for your reply. I am really interested in any addition/change in PoB and I want to be informed. Again, I am thankful for all the work you guys put in.

grish333 avatar Nov 24 '25 16:11 grish333

Yeah no problem, I get the curiosity. I started going down this path with https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/blob/dev/src/Data/ModFoulbornMap.lua but the mapping between mods wasn't in the data (and technically this file isn't 100% accurate because it's based on naming, so misspellings in the data can throw it off too).

I'll try to remember to update here if they get added.

Wires77 avatar Nov 24 '25 17:11 Wires77