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Open larsbrinkhoff opened this issue 7 years ago • 112 comments

I have tried to find pictures of ITS machines. I haven't found much.

larsbrinkhoff avatar Jan 15 '17 10:01 larsbrinkhoff

  • Lawrence Krakauer has a few pictures of PDP-6 boards, and the Fabritek memory:
    http://google.com/search?q=site%3Aljkrakauer.com+%22pdp-6%22&tbm=isch
  • I found this from around 1993, but I see no blue boxes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp9NHNKTV-M
  • This video offers a glimpse. Is that Greenblat playing chess at 7:40?
    And around 8 minutes there are some handsome boxes, not no console?
    And a glimpse of the Fabritek memory. https://www.csail.mit.edu/videoarchive/history/aifilms/mathlab-81

larsbrinkhoff avatar Jan 15 '17 11:01 larsbrinkhoff

Looks like mathlab had their software running on the AI PDP-6 at the time. Here's another video about project MAC showing the PDP-6 in all its beauty (mirrored for some reason): https://www.csail.mit.edu/videoarchive/history/aifilms/mac-104 EDIT: Not mirrored here: https://www.csail.mit.edu/videoarchive/history/aifilms/mac-45 EDIT: The person at 3:40 here looks like Greenblatt: https://www.csail.mit.edu/videoarchive/history/aifilms/robot-02 Kotok at 5:00 with someone I don't know next to him. EDIT: Assembler code on a PDP-6: http://projects.csail.mit.edu/video/history/aifilms/43-arm.mp4 EDIT: https://www.csail.mit.edu/videoarchive/history/aifilms/worm-55

These AI films are a great find!

aap avatar Jan 15 '17 11:01 aap

There are two pictures of the SAIL machines. The KL10 is in the foreground, and I think I see a KA10 in the background of the second picture. EDIT: A third picture, the KA10. sail-ka10

larsbrinkhoff avatar Jan 15 '17 13:01 larsbrinkhoff

Even if not ITS, here's another photo of Stanford's KA: http://media.csail.mit.edu/picture.php?/3642/category/173

aap avatar Jan 15 '17 15:01 aap

@simhacker, you wrote:

The console of MIT-MC, on the 9th floor Tech Square, with a can of coke. http://www.catalog.com/hopkins/images/mc-console.jpg

Do you still have that picture?

larsbrinkhoff avatar Jan 30 '17 11:01 larsbrinkhoff

Never mind, found it!

larsbrinkhoff avatar Jan 30 '17 11:01 larsbrinkhoff

This well may be the only picture of an ITS machine. Please prove me wrong.

larsbrinkhoff avatar Jan 30 '17 11:01 larsbrinkhoff

Here’s where it is now:

http://donhopkins.com/home/catalog/images/mc-console.jpg http://donhopkins.com/home/catalog/images/mc-console.jpg

Also:

The expression on Richard's face is saying, "I don't know, why do you wrap gerbils in duct tape?" http://donhopkins.com/home/catalog/images/jsol-rms-gerbil-liz-mg.jpg http://donhopkins.com/home/catalog/images/jsol-rms-gerbil-liz-mg.jpg

-Don

On 30 Jan 2017, at 03:23, Lars Brinkhoff [email protected] wrote:

This well may be the only picture of an ITS machine. Please prove me wrong.

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SimHacker avatar Jan 30 '17 15:01 SimHacker

Picture of KATIA. Does it look like it's running ITS?

larsbrinkhoff avatar Feb 01 '17 20:02 larsbrinkhoff

Can't read the screen, even after blowing up as large as I could get.

eswenson1 avatar Feb 01 '17 20:02 eswenson1

Could it be the same can of coke?!?

larsbrinkhoff avatar Feb 01 '17 21:02 larsbrinkhoff

Can't read the screen, even after blowing up as large as I could get.

Yes, more resolution please! :)

36bit avatar Feb 01 '17 21:02 36bit

I have asked if it's available in higher resolution. Here's the invoice. Lists of serial numbers online says # 175 was in Finland. I suppose it's possible that it was shipped to Stockholm.

EDIT:
Confirmed, Thord Nilsson says it came from Finland:
https://www.tekniskamuseet.se/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/115-thord-nilsson.pdf

larsbrinkhoff avatar Feb 04 '17 06:02 larsbrinkhoff

MC?

-- Eric

On Feb 13, 2017, at 22:49, Lars Brinkhoff [email protected] wrote:

Unknown KL at Tech Square:

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eswenson1 avatar Feb 14 '17 17:02 eswenson1

My mistake, it's probably not Tech Square at all.

larsbrinkhoff avatar Feb 14 '17 20:02 larsbrinkhoff

Yeah, it doesn't look like the 9th floor at tech square. Besides MC, did MIT have any other KLs?

eswenson1 avatar Feb 14 '17 21:02 eswenson1

Noel Chiappa is my go-to guy for these kind of questions, and he saw right away that it wasn't MC. And he said there were no other DEC-10 KLs at the 9th floor, only DEC-20s.

larsbrinkhoff avatar Feb 15 '17 05:02 larsbrinkhoff

@aap Those video links are now broken.

larsbrinkhoff avatar Dec 20 '17 09:12 larsbrinkhoff

That's unfortunate. Maybe I'll drop them an email. Or you do it, I probably won't have time today.

aap avatar Dec 20 '17 10:12 aap

Maybe check archive.org if they got archived?

ams avatar Dec 20 '17 10:12 ams

From CSAIL webmaster:

We are in the process of building a new video archive interface, but in the meantime, you can access the videos from the backup copy of our old server: http://akron.csail.mit.edu/research/videoarchive

EDIT: They moved again. They are now available from https://archive.org/details/AIfilms EDIT: Or https://www.csail.mit.edu/csail_videoarchive

larsbrinkhoff avatar Dec 21 '17 14:12 larsbrinkhoff

I had definitely heard of the KL-udge addition and I do recall some lights because there was a hack that allowed some pattern to be discerned from the lights. But my memory is playing tricks with me because I’m think the lights were on the bank of hardware to the right of the operator console in that picture of MC. While the 11 was to the left, as can be seen in the picture, there was much more to be seen to the right. Basically big plain cabinets — but I think MC had lights there.

eswenson1 avatar Jan 23 '18 15:01 eswenson1

Joel Moses, probably at the MIT-MC console:

larsbrinkhoff avatar Jan 24 '18 15:01 larsbrinkhoff

Lots of PDP-6 exposure in the Chess section:
http://projects.csail.mit.edu/video/history/aifilms/04-cubechess.mp4

larsbrinkhoff avatar Jan 24 '18 15:01 larsbrinkhoff

Yes. That’s the right orientation for MC’s LA36 (I think it was) and the 11. And Prof Moses would have used MC.

eswenson1 avatar Jan 24 '18 15:01 eswenson1

That is a LA36, I tore enough of these appear in college to remember them. Looks like they took off the clear plastic cover over the print area.

rcornwell avatar Jan 24 '18 15:01 rcornwell

Jeff Harris, unknown, and Licklider by an MIT PDP-10 console. But which one? lick-pdp10

larsbrinkhoff avatar Jan 24 '18 16:01 larsbrinkhoff

Licklider ran the Dynamic Modelling group, right? So it may be DM.

larsbrinkhoff avatar Jan 24 '18 18:01 larsbrinkhoff

MIT-AI (KS10) at LCM (the one on the right, next to the TOAD): http://aap.papnet.eu/pub/img/lcm/vcf_lcm_exhibit/small/P1060410.JPG http://aap.papnet.eu/pub/img/lcm/vcf_lcm_exhibit/small/IMG_20180214_155147715.jpg its unibus cage: http://aap.papnet.eu/pub/img/lcm/vcf_lcm_exhibit/small/IMG_20180214_155245396.jpg and its chaosnet board: http://aap.papnet.eu/pub/img/lcm/vcf_lcm_exhibit/small/IMG_20180214_155343491.jpg http://aap.papnet.eu/pub/img/lcm/vcf_lcm_exhibit/small/IMG_20180214_155404068.jpg (remove "small" in URL for higher res photos)

aap avatar Feb 19 '18 12:02 aap

Thanks! P1060410 isn't Chaosnet though.

larsbrinkhoff avatar Feb 19 '18 12:02 larsbrinkhoff