PDP-10
Build in macOS
There seems to be a recipe for SIMH in Homebrew. We'll build KLH10 ourselves as usual.
Working on this in the lars/macos branch. I first had to fix itstar, and then tapetuils.
The build now hangs in expect. It tries to start the emulators, but seems to have some problem interacting with the subprocess.
Ideally, I'd like to login on a Mac server or something like that.
But maybe you can checkout the lars/macos branch and test it yourself? The good news is that KLH10 built without errors, so I think our version may be ok. But neither emulator works when spawned from expect.
Couldn’t get very far:
tapeio.c:57:10: fatal error: 'sys/mtio.h' file not found
trying to build tapeutils/tapewrite
On Dec 9, 2016, at 11:20, Lars Brinkhoff [email protected] wrote:
Ideally, I'd like to login on a Mac server or something like that.
But maybe you can checkout the lars/macos branch and test it yourself? The good news is that KLH10 built without errors, so I think our version may be ok. But neither emulator works when spawned from expect.
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Found this reference:
https://opensource.apple.com/source/diskdev_cmds/diskdev_cmds-491.2/disklib/mtio.h https://opensource.apple.com/source/diskdev_cmds/diskdev_cmds-491.2/disklib/mtio.h
but not sure this is the “right” one. — Eric
On Dec 9, 2016, at 11:31, Eric Swenson [email protected] wrote:
Couldn’t get very far:
tapeio.c:57:10: fatal error: 'sys/mtio.h' file not found
trying to build tapeutils/tapewrite
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Ideally, I'd like to login on a Mac server or something like that.
But maybe you can checkout the lars/macos branch and test it yourself? The good news is that KLH10 built without errors, so I think our version may be ok. But neither emulator works when spawned from expect.
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You did. my master branch wasn’t up-to-date. Got past that. I’ll let you know. — Eric
On Dec 9, 2016, at 11:34, Lars Brinkhoff [email protected] wrote:
I thought I fixed that, but maybe I forgot to check something in.
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I did. Got tapeutils and itstar to build. Building klh10 now. Running expect script now — seems to be working so far. Will let you know what happens.
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You need to update the tools/tapeutils submodule too.
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Well, it failed with:
*:ksfedr (Please Log In) ERROR: File not found: PK0000: .; .FEFS. PK0000 !create ___003 KSFEDR . .FEFS. PK0000 WRITE 11:43:16 FE filesystem DSK: .; .FEFS. PK0000 on pack #0. Directory address: 4500000004 !write Are you sure you want to scribble in the FE filesystem? yes Which file? bt Input from (Default DSK: ___003; BT BIN): .;bt rp06 !quit
:KILL
*:lock
(Please Log In)
LOCK.154
_[CTYI: 153 => 553, old 465]kill?
_
IT IS NOW 11:43:46 AM EST, FRIDAY, DEC 9,2016
invalid command name "abort"
while executing
"abort"
invoked from within
"expect -exact $w"
(procedure "respond" line 2)
invoked from within
"respond "GO DOWN?\r\n" "y""
(procedure "shutdown" line 6)
invoked from within
"shutdown"
(file "../build.tcl" line 99)
invoked from within
"source ../build.tcl"
(file "build/klh10/build.tcl" line 54)
make: *** [out/rp0.dsk] Error 1
(genecloud)eswenson-mac ~/Personal/ITS/ws/its
$
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Ok, then it may be Travis that has a bad expect installed.
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There are two issues:
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we are not defining abort, and therefore, when expect tries to invoke abort, we get a failure.
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KLH10, under macOS appears to emit stuff like:
[CTYI: 153 => 553, old 465]
when certain characters are input to it. This is confusing the “expect -exact” command in the TCL script.
— Eric
On Dec 9, 2016, at 11:45, Eric Swenson [email protected] wrote:
Well, it failed with:
*:ksfedr (Please Log In) ERROR: File not found: PK0000: .; .FEFS. PK0000 !create ___003 KSFEDR . .FEFS. PK0000 WRITE 11:43:16 FE filesystem DSK: .; .FEFS. PK0000 on pack #0. Directory address: 4500000004 !write Are you sure you want to scribble in the FE filesystem? yes Which file? bt Input from (Default DSK: ___003; BT BIN): .;bt rp06 !quit
:KILL *:lock (Please Log In) LOCK.154
_[CTYI: 153 => 553, old 465]kill? _ IT IS NOW 11:43:46 AM EST, FRIDAY, DEC 9,2016 invalid command name "abort" while executing "abort" invoked from within "expect -exact $w" (procedure "respond" line 2) invoked from within "respond "GO DOWN?\r\n" "y"" (procedure "shutdown" line 6) invoked from within "shutdown" (file "../build.tcl" line 99) invoked from within "source ../build.tcl" (file "build/klh10/build.tcl" line 54) make: *** [out/rp0.dsk] Error 1 (genecloud)eswenson-mac ~/Personal/ITS/ws/its $On Dec 9, 2016, at 11:44, Lars Brinkhoff <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Ok, then it may be Travis that has a bad expect installed.
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Well, that's a lot further than I got running in Travis.
I got the CTYI errors before. The solution was to add delays when sending input to KLH10.
I updated the type function to put in a .1 second delay between each character send, and it appears to be going much further. It’s now loading the sources.tape. — Eric
On Dec 9, 2016, at 11:49, Lars Brinkhoff [email protected] wrote:
Well, that's a lot further than I got running in Travis.
I got the CTYI errors before. The solution was to add delays when sending input to KLH10.
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If we add this to Travis, we'll have to wait forever for the builds to complete. Their machines are slow or overloaded.
Can we conditionalize the delay for macOS? :-)
The build failed due to a timeout waiting for the sources.tape to be loaded. The current delay is 200 seconds. I bumped it up to 240 seconds. I think we were at/near the limit anyway because I ran into this last night on Linux after rebasing with the latest master merges. I’ve restarted my macOS build. — Eric
On Dec 9, 2016, at 12:16, Lars Brinkhoff [email protected] wrote:
If we add this to Travis, we'll have to wait forever for the builds to complete. Their machines are slow or overloaded.
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Hmm… this time, it died much earlier with: *:ksfedr (Please Log In) ERROR: File not found: PK0000: .; .FEFS. PK0000 !create ___003 KSFEDR . .FEFS. PK0000 WRITE 12:22:29 FE filesystem DSK: .; .FEFS. PK0000 on pack #0. Directory address: 4500000004 !write Are you sure you want to scribble in the FE filesystem? yes Which file? bt Input from (Default DSK: ___003; BT BIN): .;bt rp06 !quit
:KILL *:lock (Please Log In) DSK: HUNG ON UNIT #0 ADDR= 625,,10020 12:22:41 IT IS NOW 12:22:54 PM EST, FRIDAY, DEC 9,2016
I wonder if KLH10 is not stable on macOS. — Eric
On Dec 9, 2016, at 12:23, Eric Swenson [email protected] wrote:
Can we conditionalize the delay for macOS? :-)
The build failed due to a timeout waiting for the sources.tape to be loaded. The current delay is 200 seconds. I bumped it up to 240 seconds. I think we were at/near the limit anyway because I ran into this last night on Linux after rebasing with the latest master merges. I’ve restarted my macOS build. — Eric
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If we add this to Travis, we'll have to wait forever for the builds to complete. Their machines are slow or overloaded.
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I’ve tried several times since then. Each time I got to the tape load of sources.tape, but timed out. I increased the timeout from 200 to 240 to 300 to 360. Same thing each time:
DSK: DIR SYSNET CREATED BY ___002 DUMP 13:10:02 ___002 DUMP SYSNET DUMP OUTPUT WRITE 13:10:03 ___002 DUMP SYSNET CHTN 15 DELRNM 13:10:04 ___002 DUMP SYSNET DUMP OUTPUT WRITE 13:10:04 ___002 DUMP SYSNET COMSAT 583 DELRNM 13:10:26 ___002 DUMP SYSNET DUMP OUTPUT WRITE 13:10:26 ___002 DUMP SYSNET DQXDEV 41 DELRNM 13:10:26 ___002 DUMP SYSNET DUMP OUTPUT WRITE 13:10:26 ___002 DUMP SYSNET FTPS 336 DELRNM 13:10:31 ___002 DUMP SYSNET DUMP OUTPUT WRITE 13:10:31 invalid command name "abort" while executing "abort" invoked from within "expect -timeout 360 "E-O-T"" (file "../build.tcl" line 124) invoked from within "source ../build.tcl" (file "build/klh10/build.tcl" line 54) make: *** [out/rp0.dsk] Error 1
I don’t think this emulator runs well under macOS. — Eric
On Dec 9, 2016, at 12:24, Eric Swenson [email protected] wrote:
Hmm… this time, it died much earlier with: *:ksfedr (Please Log In) ERROR: File not found: PK0000: .; .FEFS. PK0000 !create ___003 KSFEDR . .FEFS. PK0000 WRITE 12:22:29 FE filesystem DSK: .; .FEFS. PK0000 on pack #0. Directory address: 4500000004 !write Are you sure you want to scribble in the FE filesystem? yes Which file? bt Input from (Default DSK: ___003; BT BIN): .;bt rp06 !quit
:KILL *:lock (Please Log In) DSK: HUNG ON UNIT #0 ADDR= 625,,10020 12:22:41 IT IS NOW 12:22:54 PM EST, FRIDAY, DEC 9,2016
I wonder if KLH10 is not stable on macOS. — Eric
On Dec 9, 2016, at 12:23, Eric Swenson <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Can we conditionalize the delay for macOS? :-)
The build failed due to a timeout waiting for the sources.tape to be loaded. The current delay is 200 seconds. I bumped it up to 240 seconds. I think we were at/near the limit anyway because I ran into this last night on Linux after rebasing with the latest master merges. I’ve restarted my macOS build. — Eric
On Dec 9, 2016, at 12:16, Lars Brinkhoff <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
If we add this to Travis, we'll have to wait forever for the builds to complete. Their machines are slow or overloaded.
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Ok, then it looks like it hangs in the middle of reading the tape.
I'm trying to get expect working in Travis. If I succeed, I'll try SIMH.
I tried homebrew install expect, but got
Error: No available formula with the name "expect"
It just hung at building macsyma i think. Or maybe i didn't wait long enough...I could try again today.
I'm hoping the Macsyma part of the build should be more stable now. Maybe test again?
The "basics" build passes with SIMH on Travis CI. KLH10 and KA10 do not. The latter due to a minor compile error.
It would be interesting to know if a full build passes too.
Fixed KA10 problems. See the lars/macos branch.
Still won't run in KLH10. Looks like the emulator dies during disk formatting with MARK$G.
Using make EMULATOR=simh:
OCTAL UNFASL
OD UNFASL
OPTDEF UNFASL
PHSPRT UNFASL
PRIVOB UNFASL
PROMPT U
The last command timed out.
make: *** [out/simh/rp0.dsk] Error 1
Just about all submodules are severely outdated. simh does not build on OS X at all (need -lz); pdp6 does not build because it uses pthread_setname_np with two arguments (OSX and BSD have only one); cbridge doesn't look for files under /opt/homebrew.
The other emulators also do not work, and crash in other ways ...
make EMULATOR=klh10:
KLH10# [EOF on ../mchn/DB/nsalv.ini]
KLH10# go
Starting KN10 at loc 0774000...
MARK$G'
Format pack on unit #0send: spawn id exp6 not open
while executing
"send -- $c"
(procedure "type" line 4)
invoked from within
"type $r"
(procedure "respond" line 3)
invoked from within
"respond "Are you sure you want to format pack on drive" "y""
(procedure "mark_pack" line 5)
invoked from within
"mark_pack "0" "0" "foobar""
(procedure "mark_bootstrap_packs" line 2)
invoked from within
"mark_bootstrap_packs"
(file "/Users/ams/its/build/mark.tcl" line 5)
invoked from within
"source $build/mark.tcl"
(file "../build.tcl" line 167)
invoked from within
"source ../build.tcl"
(file "build/klh10/build.tcl" line 71)
make: *** [out/klh10/rp0.dsk] Error 1
make EMULATOR=pdp10-ka
:KILL
*:delete sys;ts dump
*
:link sys;ts dump,sysbin;dump bin
*
:link sys;ts load,sys;ts dump
*
:dump
DUMP .449
_load links crdir sorry
FILE=*;* *
TAPE NO 1 CREATION DATE 241226
ERROR: OPEN: DSK: MACSYM; _DUMP_ OUTPUT - DIRECTORY FULL
20534>>.CALL 33257 (OPEN)
The last command timed out.
make: *** [out/pdp10-ka/rp03.2] Error 1