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[BUG] Ar Tonelico 2 - Music not playing during scenes
Describe the bug
Game : Ar tonelico II: Melody of Metafalica https://wiki.pcsx2.net/Ar_tonelico_II:_Melody_of_Metafalica
During certain conversation topics between the girls at inns there is supposed to be a certain song that plays. For whatever reason the song refuses to play for me. Somebody else has told me that the music plays for them during the scenes so I copied all of their settings identically and it still did not work.
This timestamp is what is supposed to happen. https://youtu.be/-egoBt9RImg?t=1584
This timestamp is what happens in the emulator. https://youtu.be/6OMXUE_9Wg4?t=166
To Reproduce Just play the game normally and view the events and it will happen.
This memory card has a save for anybody to test easily.
https://mega.nz/file/6IkRhQ7C#ZtW7ncrO-12FZmxDhX27QwKUCwLA6m3kHEx_72TSleQ
It is save # 2 on the list. When you load in, talk to the shop keeper, select rest, and then select any of the girls to start a conversation, then select the topic. After that first conversation is over the two girls will start talking to each other and the music is supposed to play like the video I posted above.
Expected behavior For the music to play properly.
GS Settings I've tried open gl, dx11, and software and it's all the same. Resolution was set to native on all 3 with default settings,
Emulation Settings I tried all kinds of settings and even tried the safe preset setting and got no luck.
System Info (please complete the following information):
- PCSX2 Revision: v1.7.0-dev-1298-gb7dfb2c29 ( I have also tried 1.4 , 1.5 , 1.6 and they all don't work )
- OS: Windows 10
- CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700x
- GPU: GTX 1070
I don't believe that is the case. Have you tested it yourself to see if it works properly for you?
Was able to reproduce it on my system, though I'm not discounting the possibility of my copy of the iso being damaged in exactly the same way, since while I think I grabbed my original rip, I could have grabbed a patched copy instead (since at some point, I ran an undub/translation patch on it).
I'll probably try running it directly from the original disc at some point, to see if that makes a difference, but it's too hot over by that computer right now for me to spend more time over there right now...
i've got reproductions on all 3 game regions
interpreters don't change the behavior changing the sync type in SPU2 doesn't change it disabled game fixes don't change anything speed hacks on/off don't change anything. Boot from bios (of the appropriate region) doesn't change anything.
SPU2 Logging doesn't reveal anything (probably need a debug build for more logging)
I've seen mention on the forum that character portraits and dialogs had issues in the past where some amount of corruption would present, there could be something getting skipped that cues the changing of the music track.
https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Audio-problem-with-Ar-tonelico-2-SLUS-21788-New-one?highlight=ar+tonelico+2
Of course, this could be ISO related, some games are known to require a CUE file, some work better as MDF.
Did a little more testing, because I thought I remembered this working properly. It works in 0.9.6 using the linuz iso cdvd plugin. It's broken in 0.9.8, either with built-in iso support or that plugin.
0.9.6 - 0.9.8 is a lot of changes, but it narrows it down to the cores
Took a quick peek at this and I don't think i suspect the SPU at least. Game seems to use ADMA for all music streaming and it's just streaming out silence during the reported scene.
The prime suspects are the VU's, and VIF recompiler between those two builds,
MicroVU was implemented right in between them, @arcum42 does the issue replicate under 0.9.8 if you use SuperVU instead?
I find it highly unlikely that the VIF or VU's (which only deal with graphics/physics) are going to be responsible for audio problems, if it is, I'll be very shocked.
I find it highly unlikely that the VIF or VU's (which only deal with graphics/physics) are going to be responsible for audio problems, if it is, I'll be very shocked.
VU1 was used for DTS audio in NHL2002, but that might be thoroughly unique in that regards.
There can be graphical and timing triggers for audio cues in console games, seen a few cases of that on the N64 where entire lines of verbal dialog get skipped when the video is scrolled too far - but in that case the next sample is loaded early instead of skipping or streaming silence.
Sounds elaborate, especially for a game as simple as Ar Tonelico, but ok.
I can't reproduce issue, music just works for me on latest dev build. Edit: Ok, my bad. Music fail at that board near end of conversation.
I can't reproduce it working under 0.9.6 @arcum42
@kozarovv issue is that the music is supposed to transition instead of going silent in the 2 part rest conversation
wait, a gamefix is breaking it?
Doubt it, already tried that direction, and i still can't reproduce the music transitioning under 0.9.6 XD
I have gamefixes turned off, went as far as renaming the file and the emulator is using the default chop/zero, music still stops.
Can confirm, turning off automatic gamefixes under either 0.9.8 or the current version fixes the issue in my tests. (Current under Linux, 0.9.6/0.9.8 under Windows.)
Disabling works for NTSC, PAL still loses music. PAL also loses music on 0.9.6 though - could be the modified save?
Don't know, I don't have a legit save for PAL that I can check with, going to that Inn with any of the saves on that memcard don't seem to trigger that event
memory8 (deathlandia tests).zip
i replaced the GAMEFILE of the SLES save in this memcard with the one from SLUS, it loads exactly the same location as SLUS but the event loses music still.