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ABR without FFMPG

Open japettyjohn opened this issue 6 years ago • 9 comments

I'm trying to do ABR with MPEGDASH using SVT-VP9 and normally I'd be using FFMPEG with 2-pass but the encoder I'm using is Windows based and the FFMPEG plugin is not done for windows.

Are there particular settings I should use so I can get usable output for use with ABR?

japettyjohn avatar May 13 '19 18:05 japettyjohn

Hi @jsunintel, could provide instruction to use FFMPEG plugin on Windows for svt vp9?

tianjunwork avatar May 13 '19 19:05 tianjunwork

@japettyjohn I'm not sure that the FFMPEG plugin works for any platform, to be clear :).

colleenkhenry avatar May 27 '19 23:05 colleenkhenry

@colleenkhenry That makes sense given even the dockers files explicitly omit SVT-VP9 (even though they might indicate otherwise).

FFMPEG is not a requirement - but 2-pass for ABR and thus MPEG-DASH is what I'm trying to handle.

japettyjohn avatar May 28 '19 00:05 japettyjohn

Maybe try using bounded bitrate constant quality for now?

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@colleenkhenry https://github.com/colleenkhenry That makes sense given even the dockers files explicitly omit SVT-VP9 (even though they might indicate otherwise).

FFMPEG is not a requirement - but 2-pass for ABR and thus MPEG-DASH is what I'm trying to handle.

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colleenkhenry avatar May 28 '19 00:05 colleenkhenry

@japettyjohn I might be wrong here, but IIRC DASH is a live streaming format and processes video in realtime. 2 pass encoding is generally for vod and archival where a size limit is important.

Do you have a use case for 2pass+dash?

bentotom avatar Jun 02 '20 17:06 bentotom

DASH is also used for VOD in order to achieve ABR.

japettyjohn avatar Jun 02 '20 22:06 japettyjohn

And you're doing 2 pass video->Dash on FFMPEG right now?

bentotom avatar Jun 02 '20 23:06 bentotom

I just reviewed this and some months ago dropped the VBR 2 pass approach for CRF which does not need 2 pass. I am doing this with FFMPEG and then producing the DASH output using the Shaka packager.

japettyjohn avatar Jun 03 '20 05:06 japettyjohn

2 pass is a process where the system approximates all the information and stores the compressability, motion and other parts of the video into a log during the first pass. During the second pass, it actually encodes the video. If you're not familiar with the process, I would suggest you look into it.

For streaming video this is usually not ideal since the user would need to wait for the 1st pass before even getting to see the first frame of the video. Again, I've never seen anyone use 2 for streaming, http, udp, rtmp, dash (both technically http), or otherwise.

bentotom avatar Jun 03 '20 06:06 bentotom