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Missing header causing "received RF late entry voice transmission"

Open robrobinette opened this issue 1 year ago • 11 comments

When I transmit to ECHO from my OpenRTX (3/11/23 nightly) MD-UV380G to my hotspot I get the following error:

M: 2023-03-12 16:14:43.604 M17, received RF late entry voice transmission from K9OJ to ECHO M: 2023-03-12 16:14:47.685 M17, received RF end of transmission from K9OJ to ECHO, 4.1 seconds, BER: 1.1% M: 2023-03-12 16:14:49.731 M17, received network voice transmission from K9OJ to ECHO M: 2023-03-12 16:14:53.848 M17, received network end of transmission from K9OJ to ECHO, 4.2 seconds

It happens with every transmission. When I transmit M17 from a FTM-200 using the same hotspot: M: 2023-03-12 16:22:32.032 M17, received RF voice transmission from K9OJ to ECHO M: 2023-03-12 16:22:36.158 M17, received RF end of transmission from K9OJ to ECHO, 4.1 seconds, BER: 0.0% M: 2023-03-12 16:22:38.207 M17, received network voice transmission from K9OJ to ECHO M: 2023-03-12 16:22:42.326 M17, received network end of transmission from K9OJ to ECHO, 4.2 seconds

The MD-UV380G header frame seems to be missed causing the "late entry" error message. I have tried this many times and I get the "late entry" every time I transmit using the MD-UV380.

robrobinette avatar Mar 12 '23 16:03 robrobinette

I do see that my OpenRTX modded MD-UV380G initially transmits 25kHz low for about 0.2 second before it stabilizes on frequency which could cause the loss of the header. If other MD-UV380 users could use an SDR and zoom in on the waterfall to see if it's just my radio or not that would help.

robrobinette avatar Mar 12 '23 17:03 robrobinette

Is something related to the RF section, which already showed to have some quirks. I'm going to do some tests and then see how to fix this, probably inserting a small delay before starting the M17 transmission to allow the carrier to stabilize.

silseva avatar Mar 17 '23 07:03 silseva

While waiting for a proper solution, I implemented a workaround which fixes the problem. I effectively saw a carrier-only gap between the starting of the preamble and the subsequent M17 stream: putting a small delay between the HR_C6000 TX enable and the activation of the TX on the AT1846S is enough to make the gap disappear.

silseva avatar Jul 14 '23 16:07 silseva

@robrobinette did you have the chance to see if now the hotspot is still showing a late RF entry? From the tests I did with the spectrum analyzer and with another radio, the issue should have been fixed.

silseva avatar Jul 29 '23 19:07 silseva

I downloaded the nightly, flashed it and I get the same error for late entry on my repeater:

M: 2023-07-30 15:06:53.487 M17, received RF late entry voice transmission from K9OJ to ECHO M: 2023-07-30 15:06:54.690 M17, transmission lost from K9OJ to ECHO, 1.2 seconds, BER: 1.2%, RSSI: -141/-141/-141 dBm

And the same from my hotspot:

M: 2023-07-30 15:09:16.707 M17, received RF late entry voice transmission from K9OJ to ECHO M: 2023-07-30 15:09:18.184 M17, transmission lost from K9OJ to ECHO, 1.5 seconds, BER: 1.8%

robrobinette avatar Jul 30 '23 15:07 robrobinette

Thanks for testing! As for the other issue (#144), I have to set up an MMDVM hotspot for further investigation.

silseva avatar Jul 30 '23 15:07 silseva

My UV380 that I flashed today shows in the "Info" page I'm running V0.3.4.9-q5a.... Is this correct for a fresh nightly? I thought 3.5.0 was the latest release? Maybe my attempts to flash nightlies has failed?

robrobinette avatar Jul 30 '23 20:07 robrobinette

Uh, no. It seems that the server from where you downloaded the nightlies is stuck. I downloaded and flashed an MD380 image from our nightly server and the version is v0.3.5-57-g61c12a32. I'll try later on with an UV380 too, but it should work. We fixed the build script a couple of weeks ago.

silseva avatar Jul 31 '23 06:07 silseva

Sorry about using an old nightly. I flashed the nightly from your link (and deleted my old browser favorite) and verified the version number was 3.5.77. . .

I still get the "late entry" error but the "transmission lost" error (see original post) has been eliminated. Echo now works so I assume it was the "transmission lost" error that was preventing echo from working for me. Here is my live log from my repeater doing an echo transmission:

M: 2023-07-31 14:32:00.254 M17, received RF late entry voice transmission from K9OJ to ECHO M: 2023-07-31 14:32:04.419 M17, received RF end of transmission from K9OJ to ECHO, 4.2 seconds, BER: 0.1%, RSSI: -141/-141/-141 dBm M: 2023-07-31 14:32:06.469 M17, received network voice transmission from K9OJ to ECHO M: 2023-07-31 14:32:10.666 M17, received network end of transmission from K9OJ to ECHO, 4.2 seconds

robrobinette avatar Jul 31 '23 14:07 robrobinette

No need to apologize! Do you remember from where you downloaded the "broken" nightlies? I'll keep this issue open for the late entry problem and close #144 as solved.

silseva avatar Aug 01 '23 08:08 silseva

No, I deleted the browser link. It was a website with a ham callsign in it though.

robrobinette avatar Aug 01 '23 13:08 robrobinette