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Spelling check language reset when typing
Hi.
I started to write a document in English, changed the document language to English, but spelling keep changing back to French (my default language) every time I hit the any key.
Best regards
Test was done on the following setup: Windows 10 1903 ONLYOFFICE Desktop Editors version 5.4.1.33
Hello, @Dremor. The spellcheck language depends on the keyboard layout language and changes automatically in ONLYOFFICE Desktop Editors. Do I understand correctly that in your case spelling keep changing back to French when you enter text in the French layout?
The spellcheck language depends on the keyboard layout language and changes automatically in ONLYOFFICE Desktop Editors.
Are you sure thats the case? My mac is installed in English (Australia)
Yet ONLYOFFICE launches in English (United States)
I've seen documents revert back to English (United States) after I'd changed it to Australian after every incorrectly spelled word is entered - inconsistently.
Hello, @Dremor. The spellcheck language depends on the keyboard layout language and changes automatically in ONLYOFFICE Desktop Editors. Do I understand correctly that in your case spelling keep changing back to French when you enter text in the French layout?
@Rita-Bubnova Sorry for the late response. Yes, When I'm using my AZERTY keyboard, spell checking revert back to French every time. Aren't I allowed to write in another language than my own ? 😅
@Dremor, to be clear - you want that your default document spellchek language to be different from your keyboard language?
Yes
-------- Message d'origine -------- On 24 mars 2020 à 09:50, Rita-Bubnova a écrit :
@Dremor, to be clear - you want that your default document spellchek language to be different from your keyboard language?
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@Dremor, as I wrote above in ONLYOFFICE Desktop Editors, the spellchecking language depends on the keyboard layout. Also implemented in MS Word.
However, the our team will consider adding a setting that disables this (issue 35911 in our internal issue tracker).
@Rita-Bubnova By default, yes, but when I change to another language, it stay like this for the whole document, and don't revert back every work I type.
Having the same issue and it is really annoying.
Document language is set to English (United States) Text language is set to English (same as above) Keyboard layout is Swedish and as soon as I start typing the text language changes to Swedish as well. So either I'm left without spellcheck (not a huge deal) or I have to change keyboard layout and start mashing keys when I need to find a non alphanumerical character, or go via Insert > Symbol.
MS Office (at least not when I used it in the past) and LibreOffice don't do this. I Would love a setting that changes this behavior since I very much prefer OO.
Has there been any progress on this issue? I do think this is a major drawback of the otherwise fabulous Only Office. Having to change my keyboard layout every time I want to use it makes using it very unattractive.
I'm having the same problem and it's really annoying. I have to write in English, but my keyboard layout is Brazilian and it keeps setting the document language back to Brazilian Portuguese every time I type something. I'd like to be able to use the Spell Check, as I'm not a native English speaker, but I can't. It feels like I have to buy an American keyboard to write in English.
Tbh, I just stopped to use Onlyoffice. I don't understand how this is considered as a normal behaviour to automatically change a setting that you specifically set yourself.
@Rita-Bubnova : I may have misunderstood previously. It is not the default spellchecker language that is affected, but the per document spellcheck language setting, which is reset after each keystroke (this is the bug).
I think this is an essential enhancement. People must be capable of writing in any language they want and get the desired spellcheck language using any keyboard layout. Here I will detail what is the behavior of ONLYOFFICE, LibreOffice and MS office, and give my personal opinion on which behavior allows for most productivity and flexibility.
ONLYOFFICE's behavior is very similar to LibreOffice (LO), that is, changing the keyboard layout while editing changes the spellcheck language automatically. The difference is that, for example, your system is set at using a Portuguese layout and the you open LO and set the spellcheck to US English, it will keep the spellcheck at US English, whilst ONLYOFFICE changes the spellcheck language back to Portuguese once you start writing. This makes it possible to use a keyboard layout different from the spellcheck language in LO, but not in ONLYOFFICE. Note, however, that once you change the system's keyboard layout while LO is open, its behavior becomes identical to that of ONLYOFFICE, such that you must restart LO to be able to spellcheck in a language different from the keyboard layout. On the other hand, the default behavior of MS office is that if you change the layout while writing the document (for example, from English to Portuguese), it also changes the spellcheck (to Portuguese, in the example), but if you change the spellcheck language (back to English), it does not change the spellcheck if you begin typing (with the layout still set to Portuguese). This makes spellchecking in a language different from the layout even easier than LO. This is also similar to spellchecking provided in many applications, including web browsers and IDEs.
My suggestion is to make ONLYOFFICE's default behavior similar to work similar to MS office, since its the one that provides the most flexibility, and maybe add an option to use the current behavior. If changing the default behavior is not possible, simply adding the option will help a lot. Even not adding the option but using LO's behavior will be great. People that use multiple languages in the same keyboard layout (which are not rare, specially on academia and software development) will greatly benefit from this.
This was written using a Portuguese keyboard layout with US English spellcheck provided by Chrome
Edit This issue is also mentioned in: #607, #626, #527
@mtcruz Thank you for your very detailed analysis, I've shown this message to our dev team
I just tested it with the latest version 7.0.0.127 and the issue is still there.
For information, @zilexa suggested a workaround in https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/DesktopEditors/issues/607#issuecomment-859524732, but I'm not sure if this modifies only the default language, or this solves the current issue (which is not about the default language for templates, but that the spellcheck languages keeps being changed back to the default language, even if we change it manually).
After updating, my solution changes are undone. So it's useless. Really crap software when you force US English upon the world.
For 2 years now!!!
@zilexa Sorry for this situation, I've brought attention of our dev team back to this situation but can promise any results
The situation seems really complex and there is no one perfect solution
Hello @ShockwaveNN Thanks for pushing this :) I'm just not sure to understand "there's no one perfect solution"? Do you mean that technically it's complex to find a solution? I'm just highlighting this because on the browser version (onlyoffice online, integrated with Nextcloud), there's no such issue.
browser version (onlyoffice online, integrated with Nextcloud), there's no such issue.
That's because in browser version there is no possibility to detect system language and in browser spellcheck language is always selected manually
I understand, thanks for the feedback. I don't know if I'm the only one, but I prefer to have the "detect system language" disabled than to be unable to change the spellcheck language. Would it be possible to deactivate the "detect system language", before a better solution is found?
Would it be possible to deactivate the "detect system language", before a better solution is found?
This is part of discussion in 35911 but I raise attention to it also
That's because in browser version there is no possibility to detect system language and in browser spellcheck language is always selected manually
That is your explanation why it is not working and very complex in the Desktop version? You do realize that makes no sense right? First of all, in Browser you can absolutely detect languages (both via Httpheader for preferred languages or through JavaScript to get content language, perhaps even more options). But the fact that you can detect it via the Desktop version also means you can choose what to do with that information. Btw with OnlyOffice Community Server I can simply edit a script file to set default language.
Sorry for this situation, I've brought attention of our dev team back to this situation but can promise any results
The situation seems really complex and there is no one perfect solution
Are you trying to make us look like fools? This has been forwarded to dev team earlier, in the past 1.5 years. Also, I've already proven in a previous post it is possible to change the default language of DesktopEditors, without changing code. With that information it should be trivial to workout the solution or at least prevent updates to undo the solution.
It is simply false information what you are sharing. Either that or you are bluntly copying what your devteam shared.
Ok, I agree that you might be right in some parts and yes, I'm sharing some information from the dev team, because I'm not that good at understanding language mechanics in our app, you got me
And seriously I don't like your tone, I've done all that I need to be done as QA team member and I'm out of this issue, sorry
If someone really needs this feature/bug fixed - feel free to contact [email protected] and they can change our feature/bugfix priorities, but I - cannot
My tone changes because the last 12 months I've been quite disappointed by numerous responses from the OnlyOffice teams. It's nothing personal. I just really do not understand where this project is trying to go limiting itself to US English users only.
I would go as far to guess that OnlyOffice online version is more popular outside the US.
is trying to go limiting itself to US English users only.
No, we are not trying to, sorry if we got that look
But we are a commercial organization, first of all We got no money source outside our paid customers - so our priorities dictated by paying customers first
And we simply cannot implement all the features everyone wants, we're not that big as a team
And I got good news - we really hope to add an option to disable auto-spellcheck detection in v7.0.1 https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/desktop-apps/commit/acb5d6ba42a43171d3369139022a77f260250fe1
It was only implemented yesterday, so we haven't properly tested it so as usual - no promises ) And this solves not all the problems that raised in this issue, but this is rather simple solution we can implement right now
Congrats @ShockwaveNN ! Thank you for this :)
@zilexa I understand your frustration, and I have expressed it myself in non-friendly words in the past, notably for other open-source projects. It was a mistake and I regret it 😕. I think that the OnlyOffice team does its best to create a great open source and free software. And even if it doesn't go in the direction I want sometimes, am I really legit to criticize or be impatient? I don't think so, and I try to stay on the constructive side 😉.
Here's an annoying problem too. I am Brazilian who speaks Portuguese and I use an American keyboard. When writing Portuguese, but OnlyOffice switches to English. Please fix this and it's been 2 years now.
