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Have neutral sacrifices disappear in a puff, not a cloud, of smoke.

Open Vivit-R opened this issue 2 years ago • 9 comments

The other two messages, "flash of light" and "burst of flame", each have an evocative onomatopoetic noun describing a sharp, abrupt release of light and flame, respectively. If law is represented by light, chaos by flame, and balance by smoke, the natural word is puff, not cloud.

Vivit-R avatar Oct 18 '21 16:10 Vivit-R

Puff sounds a bit sissy; you're sacrificing an animal that you've killed for heaven's sake!

Planet-Patrick avatar Dec 10 '21 11:12 Planet-Patrick

I think a less intense message is actually appropriate for the neutral alignment. Besides, its doesn't say how big a puff of smoke it is.

Vivit-R avatar Dec 11 '21 08:12 Vivit-R

You could also use "great puff of smoke". Though I agree with vivit that "puff of smoke" is fine.

copperwater avatar Feb 04 '22 16:02 copperwater

"Your sacrifice disappears in a big ol' dang puff of smoke"

entrez avatar Feb 04 '22 16:02 entrez

You could also use "great puff of smoke". Though I agree with vivit that "puff of smoke" is fine.

The irony here is that I completely forgot I was the one who added "cloud of smoke" in the first place, and decided against using "puff" like in SpliceHack.

https://github.com/nethack/nethack/commit/c578b95

copperwater avatar Feb 11 '22 00:02 copperwater

Stuff on the floor can already cause you to see a "puff of smoke" from fire (zap.c), and when a djinni doesn't emerge from a magic lamp, you can see "a puff of smoke" (apply.c). Why have the language changed to be so similar for an altar?

nhmall avatar Feb 11 '22 00:02 nhmall

That's a good point. I agree that "puff" matches more closely than "cloud" to the feel of the other alignments' sacrifice verbiage, but the distinction from the preexisting "puff of smoke" uses seems like a good thing.

entrez avatar Feb 11 '22 01:02 entrez

A gust of smoke? A whirlwind of smoke? A rush of smoke? A gale of smoke?

Moult avatar Aug 14 '22 09:08 Moult

How "burst of smoke" for neutral and "blast of flame" for chaotic?

Vivit-R avatar Sep 01 '22 20:09 Vivit-R