Missing Variation Selectors
Shouldn't all emojis have the ability to select VS15 or VS16 in addition to just normal "copy"? Only a few characters have anything like this. For example U+00A9 has +VS16, but a simple emoji like U+1F600 only has "copy." No VS15 OR VS16 to choose from.
I think all emojis should have "copy," "VS15," and "VS16."
Because of local menu? If default character is graphic, there’s VS15 in local menu. And VS16, if default character is text.
Emojis do not have VS15. Example:
All emojis (and symbols with graphic counterparts, ie © and ®) should have "copy," "VS15," and "VS16." There are some uses where the specific variation selector is important rather than only "copy."
Recently I have made local menu.
I did not put VS15 to main pane because of confusion. What to do, IDK.
Found a bug! Local menu does not work in the Library! No VS15 option there!
I did not put VS15 to main pane because of confusion. What to do, IDK.
I don't think it's confusing to put VS15 and VS16 into the main pane.
There’s no VS15/VS16 option in the Library. This is not a bug, it’s an oversight. I did not even think that such a thing is needed.
If it's needed in the Blocks, then it's also needed in the Library.
I made for now: copy+VS15 is always visible (though will surely work for old characters like 26BD ⚽︎ only), and copy+VS16 for VS16 emoji only.
Made VS15 for ALL emoji. Left VS16 the same. OK?
With Library — that’s not simple from user’s POV: if emoji is XXX+VS16, then Copy and Copy+VS16 will be the same. Copy is always the most important menu item.
Maybe, someday I’ll add local menu to composition pane.
I’ve been at the hospital recently (mother is OK, don’t worry), and lifts were far from good. I recollected an argument on the Internet.
High-rise buildings (10+ floors), by building code, should have two lifts, passenger and cargo-passenger. Sometimes people carry e.g. bike, and small lift is not an option. A: If we had two buttons: call a small lift or a big lift. B: That’s thinking of a C student. User’s needs are: call big lift, and call ANY lift. Otherwise, if you need any lift, you’ll call both, even lengthening lines.
That is UX, and I reluctantly consider your suggestion.
Well, what should I do now?
I still think all emojis should have "copy," "VS15," and "VS16." Including in the Library.
Library is a char+VS16. Then copy and copy+VS16 do the same.
What is VS16 used for then if copy+VS16 is the same as copy?
Library does not give me a VS16 option...
What is VS16 used for then if copy+VS16 is the same as copy?
Copy+VS16 works with single characters only. Copy does a different thing (copies just a character). Button “Copy+VS16” appears. Is it enough?
Library does not give me a VS16 option...
That’s why it does not give. I cannot invent a simple and working system.
@MAZ06
Added Copy + VS15 to Library. Is it enough, or I should invent more?
@MAZ06 Added more
I don't think "bare" is a good word to use here. What is the difference between "Copy" and "Copy bare symbol"?
“Copy” will copy emoji as is, e.g. XXX+VS16. “Copy bare symbol” will copy XXX, available only on XXX+VS15/16. “Copy+VS15” will copy XXX+VS15, available on XXX or XXX+VS16, when XXX itself is emoji.
I suggest this:
"Copy" = copy XXX as is "Copy+VS15" "Copy+VS16"
I suggest this:
"Copy" = copy XXX as is "Copy+VS15" "Copy+VS16"
It only works with lone characters, and implemented this way in Blocks. Library items are often multi-character strings.
Wait. Now I'm confused...
If the emoji is XXX → Copy, Copy+VS15 If the emoji is XXX+VS16 → Copy, Copy bare symbol, Copy+VS15 If the emoji is something weird (e.g. racial) → Copy If not emoji at all → Copy If XXX+VS15 → Copy, Copy bare symbol
If I understand this correctly, there are some emojis that automatically come with VS16? Can you give an example of an emoji like that?
And same question for XXX+VS15...
XXX + VS16: mostly old characters accepted long before emoji, or some strange things happened during approval.
Something weird: everything really multi-character
XXX+VS15: mainly used for old characters that became emoji by themselves (w/o VS16) to turn them to text again. AFAIR there’s one instance in Library, circle of PlayStation.
Ok. Your idea probably works then.
But "bare" is a bad word to use here. Maybe use "Copy without variation selector".