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Black screen on boot (awaiting home menu loading)
System model: All models
SysNAND version (+emu/redNAND version if applicable):
11.6.0-39[All] through 11.7.0-40[All]
Entrypoint (How/what you're using to boot Luma3DS): b9s 1.2/1.3
Luma3DS version: 9.0
Luma3DS configuration/options:
Show NAND or user string in System Settings: ( X )
all others off
Explanation of the issue:
System occasionally will hang on home menu load. Black screen. Rosalina menu can be accessed. GM9/firmware payloads/chainloader is accessible on boot Luma config is accessible on boot
clearing home menu extdata does not fix issue (nor does removing SD card or gamecart)
Steps to reproduce:
random occurrance. usually only happens once per 3ds/2ds. can happen after initial install of b9s/luma. can also happen on force power off during assumed hang/freeze.
fix action usually requires user to wait 5-10 minutes (in my experience it is closer to 5-6 minutes) and then the home menu will load.
repeated attempts to reboot does not fix this issue until user waits the 5-10 minutes.
Issue is commonly seen on the NH discord. attaching an occurrence from tonight.
I had the exact same problem here. I tried some of the procedures published at 3ds.hacks.guide, but the only solution was that that you offered in this thread (letting it sit on the black screen for about 10 minutes).
After that, my 3DS is working just fine. Thanks for the support!
Another instance from tonight
another from tonight
user system o3ds, game running before attempting to go to home menu freeze was pokemon sun
not sure what kind of metric we need for this, going to stop posting occurrences as i believe these examples are evidence of an existing intermittent issue.
I'd like to ask a few questions.
- How many 'apps' do users affected by this have installed on their home screen?
- What kinds of SD cards are affected users using?
- Have they been tested for errors?
- What's the system history of these 3DSes? Has anything else been previously installed on them, like older exploits or tools?
i have seen this on a fresh install with no apps other than sudoku and system apps using the stock 4gb sd. not sure about testing for errors. new systems as well as old with many different histories
Never had this problem on any 3DS. May be related: There is a problem with N3DS consoles when the camera is defective(?). Such systems will not show HOME menu at all but there is sound. Recovery mode works and all homebrew FIRMs do too. Disconnecting the cameras fixes it.
i too experience this, i have ~70 titles from eshop atm (and for not working camera's you can uncomment some code in the luma source and compile it @profi200 )
Luma 9.1 here on N2DS XL. Maybe this is triggered by StreetPass in sleep mode.
My system had been OK for days (sleep mode being used regularly) but today I received a streetpass hit while in sleep while on the main menu. Indicator LED was green.
Opened the display and the indicator LED turned off, power LED on, wi-fi LED blinking the usual pattern it does when wi-fi is enabled on home menu but more slowly than usual. Black screens.
Powered off. Powered on. Black screens. Had to leave the system for 5 minutes for it to recover by itself.
Hi Guys, I had this problem for the first time yesterday, and I could see that the problem is in the memory card, maybe in the slot, maybe in the micro SD adapter, I left it in that mode you said, 1h and nothing he did not return. The night when I came from work I did the following, I called him without the SDcard, ok he called normal, then I inserted the SD and I pressed it for a few seconds and voila, the games appeared, then I hung up and called again and everything was normal. I have a R4card 2015 and sometimes I have to hold it in this tight way to the bottom so I can just drop it, so I decided to try the same with the 3ds SDcard.
Have a good day / night guys.
old3DS 32GB Firm 11.6 + Luma 9.1
Hi Guys, I had this problem for the first time yesterday, and I could see that the problem is in the memory card, maybe in the slot, maybe in the micro SD adapter, I left it in that mode you said, 1h and nothing he did not return. The night when I came from work I did the following, I called him without the SDcard, ok he called normal, then I inserted the SD and I pressed it for a few seconds and voila, the games appeared, then I hung up and called again and everything was normal. I have a R4card 2015 and sometimes I have to hold it in this tight way to the bottom so I can just drop it, so I decided to try the same with the 3ds SDcard.
Have a good day / night guys.
old3DS 32GB Firm 11.6 + Luma 9.1
this is a different issue and is unrelated. it looks the same to you but it isnt the same issue.
Multiple 2DSes i've hacked had this issue. Found the following to work: start console, then immediately flip sleep switch ON, wait for network indicator to slowly blink, then flip sleep switch OFF. The HOME Menu will load. This only starts on the second boot after initial Luma install, and after this procedure, never happens again.
Got the same issue on new 2ds xl. Luma3DS v10.0.1, latest official euro firmware. Shutdown/poweron and reboot does not fix this issue. Home menu appeared after waiting for a few minutes on black screen. There also was a notification from SpotPass.
It only happens to me when I have a flashcart (DSTTi and AK2i in my case). If I remove the flashcart, it would boot as usual.
Hi Everyone, i had issue with my n3ds, when i boot up with or without sdcard it just black screen and just give theme sound then silent, but when i press any button n3ds will reboot then blackscreen and sound again. but i can access my luma or godmode. i already try to wait until 30 minutes nothing boot up. Please help me, i want play some game on my n3ds again .
That's a bit off-topic for this issue, but it sounds like you're getting an error handler when booting. Rename the "sdmc:/luma/dumps" folder (or whichever crashdumps go into, idr the name at the moment) and press A twice when it would normally reboot. Does that generate a dump?
On Tuesday, February 25, 2020, Lexxtalion [email protected] wrote:
Hi Everyone, i had issue with my n3ds, when i boot up with or without sdcard it just black screen and just give theme sound then silent, but when i press any button n3ds will reboot then blackscreen and sound again. but i can access my luma or godmode. i already try to wait until 30 minutes nothing boot up. Please help me, i want play some game on my n3ds again .
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I also had this issue on an old 3DS, only after enabling streetpass and going out in public, and I was able to resolve it by turning off the wireless switch as some others have indicated. Luma 10.0.1, FW 11.13.0-45U
EDIT: Unlike the OP, I couldn't open the rosalina menu on the black screen. But I could boot to godmode9 and restore a NAND backup which also resolved the issue. Similar to OP, clearing home menu extdata didn't resolve it.
Just for another opinion, I just updated to 10.1.3 using the updater, and I had the same issue. It wouldn't matter if I was starting with or without the SD card inserted. I fixed it by using the previous version, 10.1.2. After I knew everything was working, I updated the old fashion way. I tested by rebooting my system multiple times, and have not had an issue.
Silly question maybe... has anyone tried dumping the filesystem of the NAND when this happens, then comparing it to a dump taken after it is allowed to sit and cure itself to find out why?
EDIT: Should still fix that bug.
That only works if you don't have a New 2DSXL. Otherwise, you are looking at getting a tri-wing screwdriver, and doing this with the bottom case off and the speakers disconnected.
This works for me EDIT: Should still fix that bug.
That only works if you don't have a New 2DSXL. Otherwise, you are looking at getting a tri-wing screwdriver, and doing this with the bottom case off and the speakers disconnected.
Yeah, a little more expensive than just patching out that bug. (By expensive I mean you need to get a tri-wing screwdriver if you don't have one)
I'm having a similar issue. I experience a black screen that I believe is activated during sleep mode and can only be resolved by a hard reset. Recently started occurring within the last official update and luma updates.
Happens to me too. I can’t remember what app it was on. I think it was on GM9.
On May 20, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Sabre8073 [email protected] wrote:
I'm having a similar issue. I experience a black screen that I believe is activated during sleep mode and can only be resolved by a hard reset. Recently started occurring within the last official update and luma updates.
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Interesting that someone had sleep mode trigger it, sleep mode is the solution in 90% of my cases.
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, raspimana [email protected] wrote:
Happens to me too. I can’t remember what app it was on. I think it was on GM9.
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I'm having a similar issue. I experience a black screen that I believe is activated during sleep mode and can only be resolved by a hard reset. Recently started occurring within the last official update and luma updates.
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Possibly https://gbatemp.net/threads/black-screen-at-the-start-of-the-3ds.543980/page-3#post-8763629 aka a home menu issue with corrupted sysdata/extdata. Not really Luma related. Sadly that data is on the CTRNAND so manual intervention is required (or a complete system format)
It's not always corrupted, though, as a restart plus like the sleep switch being held/flipped or smth under some circumstances fixes it, which wouldn't be true if it was a corrupt home menu, which would require a hell of a lot more work to fix.
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Possibly https://gbatemp.net/threads/black-screen-at-the-start-of-the-3ds.543980/page-3#post-8763629 aka a home menu issue with corrupted sysdata/extdata
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It's still a home menu issue most likely, Luma only applies very minor patches to the home menu (specifically to patch out the region checks and the like) so it would happen on stock too imo.