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Do you plan a support of Big Sur?

Open fermiongithub opened this issue 3 years ago • 19 comments

I couldn't find a way to get in contact to you via Mail, so I try it this way, I hope that is OK.

Do you plan a support of Big Sur?

Best, Andreas

fermiongithub avatar Jan 19 '21 12:01 fermiongithub

What problems are you experiencing when running Monolingual on Big Sur?

IngmarStein avatar Jan 22 '21 20:01 IngmarStein

I just used Monolingual today on my Mac with Big Sur. It works perfectly. I freed 132MB of space.

prakharb5 avatar Feb 01 '21 11:02 prakharb5

Hello Ingmar,

I'm not sure, which mail address is correct to answer to your message, so I took 3 different addresses.

Thank you for your feedback.

I tried it myself and removed all languages except English and German.

Freed up space 1,8 GB

So about 12 times more than on your computer.

After the cleanup I did a reboot.

Unfortunately I could not achieve my most important goal.

I wished that the font collection was cleaned of all exotic fonts.

But they are all still there, see screenshot.

Did I do something wrong?

Regardless: Which architectures would you remove on a Macbook with M1 chip ("Apple Silicon")?

Best regards, Andreas

Pro:

I just used Monolingual today on my Mac with Big Sur. It works perfectly. I freed 132MB of space.

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fermiongithub avatar Feb 01 '21 15:02 fermiongithub

1.8 GB is huuuge!

Btw, you have to use the GitHub web client to send images. Sending through your mail does not work :(

prakharb5 avatar Feb 01 '21 17:02 prakharb5

Indeed, that's so huge.

Do you have a personal mail address which you allow me to use?

Best, Andreas

Pro:

1.8 GB is huuuge!

Btw, you have to use the GitHub web client to send images. Sending through your mail does not work :(

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fermiongithub avatar Feb 01 '21 19:02 fermiongithub

Monolingual cleans language files and architectures. It does not handle fonts.

IngmarStein avatar Feb 01 '21 19:02 IngmarStein

OK, bad luck for me. It seems that there's no way at all to get rid of those exotic fonts which mess up my font lists in all applications :(

Which architectures do you recommend to delete from a M1 Mac?

Best, Andreas

Ingmar Stein:

Monolingual cleans language files and architectures. It does not handle fonts.

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fermiongithub avatar Feb 01 '21 19:02 fermiongithub

Hello Ingmar,

I've tried using Monolingual 1.8.2 in Big Sur and it doesn't do anything. The progress bar just bounces left and right for as long as you're willing to wait for it to do something and it never removes any language files.

I did try deleting every single file Monolingual installs or creates, restarting the Mac and reinstalling Monolingual, but no change.

Any ideas what may be wrong?

Thanks,

Kurt

Edit: Tried it again just now and it does indeed remove languages, but shows no indication of what it's removing and if you click Cancel to stop, it says zero bytes removed, even though it did clear some languages out.

Kurt-Lang avatar Mar 10 '21 14:03 Kurt-Lang

Ah. I finally see what's happening. I'm used to Catalina and earlier where Monolingual starts showing removed items in less than 15 seconds or so. Under Big Sur, it takes a very long time for it to finish traversing the root Library folder. Once it gets to the Applications folder, then you see a lot of language files being removed.

Kurt-Lang avatar Mar 21 '21 17:03 Kurt-Lang

Ah, good to know. Thanks!

IngmarStein avatar Mar 21 '21 21:03 IngmarStein

Little extra info as it should be useful for just about everyone. Since almost everything in the root Library folder is installed by the OS and never really changes (other than for updates), you can really speed up Monolingual in Big Sur by having it look only in the Applications folder, and the root /Library/Application Support folder. Then it doesn't have to traverse the rest of the /Library folder.

Can't post an image here, so here's a somewhat sloppy way of how I have the preferences set:

Languages Architectures Path ✓ ✓ /Applications □ □ /Library □ □ /System ✓ ✓ /Library/Application Support

Edit: Looks a lot nicer before I click to post.

Kurt-Lang avatar Mar 22 '21 21:03 Kurt-Lang

That's a reasonable way to speed the tool up.

I didn't get much out of the attached log above. Was anything written to ~/Library/Logs/Monolingual.log?

Here's another build where I bumped the version number to 1.9.0 to ensure that the helper is updated (it is left alone if the version number doesn't change): Monolingual-1.9.0.dmg.zip

IngmarStein avatar Mar 22 '21 21:03 IngmarStein

That's odd. I didn't attach a log. But yes, there's quite a bit in the .log file. First a long, bunched together list of all the language .lproj items it's going to remove, then individual lines of what was actually removed. That is almost all Microsoft Office 365 stuff. 1.2 GB worth of junk.

Thanks for the update!

Kurt-Lang avatar Mar 22 '21 21:03 Kurt-Lang

Sorry, the second part above was meant for #233. Looks like there's nothing left to do here. Once I have confirmation that 1.9.0 works on Apple Silicon Macs, I'll release the update and close this issue.

IngmarStein avatar Mar 22 '21 22:03 IngmarStein

Sorry, the second part above was meant for #233. Looks like there's nothing left to do here. Once I have confirmation that 1.9.0 works on Apple Silicon Macs, I'll release the update and close this issue.

M1 Air here

I was able to open and run the app, it asks to install the helper tool, installed. I open prefs to trash language files, run commands to remove the language files and architectures, but does not seem to be working (nothing in the trash). I do not think it installed the helper tool either. I can email the log if needed.

Thanks again.

pirasee avatar Mar 23 '21 23:03 pirasee

I tested Monolingual 1.9.0 on MacBook Pro(Intel). System is MacOS 11.2.3.

Monolingual 1.9.0 launched and updated 'com.github.IngmarStein.Monolingual.Helper(1.8.3)'. But Monolingual didn't start the job, the process window didn't appear.

I wonder the file size of 1.9.0 is too small against 1.8.2, though 1.9.0 is an universal application. File size is as below; Monolingual.app 1.8.2: 27,538,027 bytes Monolingual.app 1.9.0: 12,467,929 bytes

suishouen avatar Mar 25 '21 11:03 suishouen

Same as suishouen. I tried 1.9.0 in Big Sur and it does launch, but does nothing. The process window never appears and it just sits there on the desktop forever.

The following is even more bizarre.

I went back to 1.8.2, which I downloaded from the main Monolingual page. It did the same thing as 1.9.0. No process window and just sits doing nothing. Thinking there may be a mix up of helpers tools or other files related to Monolingual on the drive preventing it from working, I used EasyFind to locate and remove every file Monolingual installs or creates. Restarted the Mac and reinstalled 1.8.2. After the install, I restarted again since it places a daemon on the drive.

Still nothing. 1.8.2 wouldn't work.

Now the bizarre part. I pulled 1.8.2 off a backup I had just made. I didn't even do any drive cleanup of old files. I just ran it and that one worked! This of course makes little sense. They're both 1.8.2 downloaded from the same link. Older copy works. New downloaded copy doesn't.

Side note of the above for the preferences. It takes Monolingual just as long to do its thing even with the check boxes off. Seems it runs through the entire series of subfolders when it should simply skip the System folder, and all but the /Library/Application Support subfolder entirely.

Kurt-Lang avatar Mar 27 '21 21:03 Kurt-Lang

Thanks for the reports. I can reproduce the issue and am looking into it now.

IngmarStein avatar Mar 29 '21 18:03 IngmarStein

testing the 1.9.0 version on sonoma 14.3.1 and has the same behavior like other users report! i hope to see a real apple silicon monolingual with full power soon!

JohnnyFireOne avatar Feb 12 '24 12:02 JohnnyFireOne