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Variables reporting Shares / Rates

Open FlorianLeblancDr opened this issue 1 year ago • 4 comments

          Thanks @FlorianLeblancDr for the response.
  1. Yes, we should definitely review whether these identifiers are relevant and we should remove them where possible.
  2. About the shares: In this issue, I'm more concerned about the naming convention rather than where/how it is computed. From the perspective of a user of the Scenario Explorer, they will find both "Unemployment" (in millions) and "Unemployment (Rate)" (in %) useful, so we should provide both.

Originally posted by @danielhuppmann in https://github.com/IAMconsortium/common-definitions/issues/55#issuecomment-1944019955

FlorianLeblancDr avatar Feb 15 '24 14:02 FlorianLeblancDr

Raising a new issue on variable defined as Shares / Rates, following this discussion.

I wondered if having "Shares" variables is not misleading, as it let each modelling team decide what is the denominator. and if it won't be equivalent to request the variable you want to compute shares inside the database.

For example, instead of requesting employment as a share of something (something being specified in the definition), one could only request (for example) total active population and let the share be computed elsewhere?

Example:

- Unemployment:
    definition: Number of unemployed inhabitants (based on ILO classification)
    unit: million
- Unemployment|Rate:
    definition: Fraction of unemployed inhabitants (based on ILO classification)
    unit: '%'

To be replaced by:

- Unemployment:
    definition: Number of unemployed inhabitants (based on ILO classification)
    unit: million

Daniel raised a good point: "From the perspective of a user of the Scenario Explorer, they will find both "Unemployment" (in millions) and "Unemployment (Rate)" (in %) useful, so we should provide both".

So my final suggestion would be to remain exhaustive, and provide explicitly in the definition the corresponding numerator and denominator, and add new variables defining denominators each time a "Rate" / "Share" variable is defined. This would give for the example:

- Unemployment:
    definition: Number of unemployed inhabitants (based on ILO classification)
    unit: million
- Population|Active:
    definition: Active population.
    unit: '%'
- Unemployment|Rate:
    definition: Fraction of unemployed inhabitants ('Unemployment') over active population ('Population|Active'
    unit: '%')

FlorianLeblancDr avatar Feb 15 '24 14:02 FlorianLeblancDr

I agree with @danielhuppmann, shares/rates are useful for users in the Explorer as metrics and with @FlorianLeblancDr on detailed definitions of numerator and denominator.

I think it would be useful to have a summary (or adding labels/tiers) of all the derived variables (they won't be top priority in reporting.

realxinzhao avatar Feb 22 '24 16:02 realxinzhao

Hello! Is there an update on this discussion? (maybe @danielhuppmann)

In scenarioMIP we are currently facing the same concern with transportation shares: https://github.com/IAMconsortium/common-definitions/blob/c9f9981da9eadfa6904dd78c8246a442fe9bbb19/definitions/variable/sdg-indicators/sdg.yaml#L208-L223

What's the denominator? Could we instead report directly the values in person-km?

lecfab avatar Mar 13 '25 10:03 lecfab

My advice is still to report numerators and denomitors, and give the indication in a not how the Share should be computed.

This is what I finally implemented here for unemployement:

https://github.com/IAMconsortium/common-definitions/pull/279/commits/46f3a3ab61c83bf1b80130ed715ba9ce98cc8427#diff-74bbb3e3bac556b216e49d2dd5cc463b688cb76a10eda844ee5ca8a890a03c37R16-R27 definitions/variable/macro-economy/labor-force.yaml

In your case, I would suggest to add the variable: Energy Service|Transportation|Passenger|Active Transport

And add a note: note: Should be consistent with the ratio of "Energy Service|Transportation|Passenger|Active Transport" to "Energy Service|Transportation|Passenger"

FlorianLeblancDr avatar Mar 13 '25 13:03 FlorianLeblancDr