memoQ 9.8 Plugin

[drkhateeb]

OPUS - CAT plaugin for memoQ 9.8.6 is not working no translation comes from MT please fix it

I suggest adding a Pre/Post MT Tweaking using a glossary to replace specific terms with user-defined ones check this https://github.com/RWS/Sdl-Community/tree/master/MT%20Enhanced%20Provider

and this

https://appstore.sdl.com/language/app/rys-google-cloud-translate-nmt/775/

[TommiNieminen]

Hi,

Seems that memoQ changed the plugin API in 9.7.10, I changed the plugin to fix that earlier this year, and then memoQ changed the plugin API back in later versions. Looks like the older memoQ plugin works with 9.8.6, I've updated the installation page to reflect this: https://helsinki-nlp.github.io/OPUS-CAT/install. So you should be able to use the memoQ plugin by installing the following plugin file: https://github.com/Helsinki-NLP/OPUS-CAT/raw/develop/build/2020-10-07/FiskmoMTPlugin.dll.

I have pre- and post-processing of MT input and output planned, hopefully I can add it soon.

[drkhateeb]

Thank for clarification but neither the old nor new plugin worked with 9.8.6 version

[TommiNieminen]

Sorry about the late reply. The plugin file that I linked to earlier works in my 9.8.6., so I don't really know what could cause the problem. The only thing I can think of is that maybe the dll file has not been unblocked after download (right-click file, choose Properties, check the Unblock box in the bottom right of the Properties window).

[drkhateeb]

Hello Dear could you please send me your plugin as an attachment here

Regards

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Sorry about the late reply. The plugin file that I linked to earlier works in my 9.8.6., so I don't really know what could cause the problem. The only thing I can think of is that maybe the dll file has not been unblocked after download (right-click file, choose Properties, check the Unblock box in the bottom right of the Properties window).

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[TommiNieminen]

Here you go (had to zip it since Github won't allow attaching dll's): FiskmoMTPlugin.zip

[drkhateeb]

Thank you very much I will check it and update you best

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Here you go (had to zip it since Github won't allow attaching dll's): FiskmoMTPlugin.ziphttps://github.com/Helsinki-NLP/OPUS-CAT/files/6917525/FiskmoMTPlugin.zip

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[drkhateeb]

Hello it is working now with memoQ 9.8.7

Could you please train a new English Arabic model from scratch I have a high quality medical TMX 500.000 segments plus to 180.000 medical terms

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Here you go (had to zip it since Github won't allow attaching dll's): FiskmoMTPlugin.ziphttps://github.com/Helsinki-NLP/OPUS-CAT/files/6917525/FiskmoMTPlugin.zip

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[TommiNieminen]

Hi,

Unfortunately we can't specifically train new models for users, but there are few options to incorporate your own data into OPUS-CAT models:

1. First, if you own the rights to the data, you can contribute the data to the OPUS project (https://opus.nlpl.eu/). The contributed data would eventually be used to train new models for OPUS-MT, which would make it available in OPUS-CAT (but it would probably take a long time for the data to be used in training of new models, they aren't updated that often).
2. A quicker option is to use the fine-tuning functionality in the OPUS-CAT MT Engine to finetune one of the existing models with your own data, instructions are here (the info is for version 1.0.0.4 of the engine, but the main functionality is the same): https://helsinki-nlp.github.io/OPUS-CAT/enginefinetune. Your tmx is pretty large, but you might be able to use it for fine-tuning without problems (although it would take a lot of time to run to completion, at least a couple of days). If you use the Trados plugin, you can fine-tune with job-specific data (100 percent and fuzzy matches of the source text), which makes the fine-tuning much more efficient, as only relevant data is used: https://helsinki-nlp.github.io/OPUS-CAT/tradospluginfinetune.

-Tommi

[SafeTex]

Hi,

Seems that memoQ changed the plugin API in 9.7.10, I changed the plugin to fix that earlier this year, and then memoQ changed the plugin API back in later versions. Looks like the older memoQ plugin works with 9.8.6, I've updated the installation page to reflect this: https://helsinki-nlp.github.io/OPUS-CAT/install. So you should be able to use the memoQ plugin by installing the following plugin file: https://github.com/Helsinki-NLP/OPUS-CAT/raw/develop/build/2020-10-07/FiskmoMTPlugin.dll.

I have pre- and post-processing of MT input and output planned, hopefully I can add it soon.

This was my experience too. I had to update the memoQ plugin to get Opus to work but then, after a memoQ update, Opus would not work until I dropped back down to the old memoQ plugin

[Vicken2]

I am a user of memoQ 9.8.8 English-French. The plugin you shared in this feed works with memoQ in standlaone mode, but not with 'server-based' memoQ. I connect to a company's memoQ domain in order to translate for them using their TMX resources, and in this case Fiskmo does not work, although DeepL and Modern MT do). I tried ALL plugins you suggested. Anything else I can try?

[drkhateeb]

It is better to try intento with 35 Machine translation included https://inten.to/

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I am a user of memoQ 9.8.8 English-French. The plugin you shared in this feed works with memoQ in standlaone mode, but not with 'server-based' memoQ. I connect to a company's memoQ domain in order to translate for them using their TMX resources, and in this case Fiskmo does not work, although DeepL and Modern MT do). I tried ALL plugins you suggested. Anything else I can try?

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[Vicken2]

Thank you for your quick response. Intento is not free, and is rather used for its ability to pick the right combination of languages for a multi-language environment. My environment is simpler: only English to French, and it is cheaper to go directly with DeepL or Modern MT. I trained a model in Friskmo with a sizeable TMX file and it surprisingly gave me good results. I wish I could train DeepL like that! Vicken

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It is better to try intento with 35 Machine translation included https://inten.to/

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[SafeTex]

Hello Vicken2 and all

The bundling of Opus MT in memoQ is up on the memoQ ideas portal but for the moment, it has not been chosen by memoQ as a priority But when I posted this request, I did mention Gergely Bereczki at memoQ who works in support and seems to know a fair bit about Opus MT The only thing I can think of is that you contact him, just in the hope that he knows how to "tweak" memoQ so that Opus works with a memoQ server. But it's a long shot. In the meantime, I will add a comment to this Ideas Portal pointing out that Opus MT does not work with server projects, so perhaps if the idea is taken up by memoQ, then they could look at this too Regards Dave Neve (SafeTex)

[TommiNieminen]

Thanks for your answer, Dave.

Unfortunately, I can't set up a testing environment for server-based memoQ, so even if it would be possible to get the plugin to work with the server-based memoQ, I can't really explore the possibility.

[SafeTex]

Hello Tommi

I assume you have memoQ in order to do what you have already done???

Is the problem simply that you don't have anyone to give you an online project 'cos if that's the problem, I may be able to arrange this.

if you don't have memoQ, I might be able to arrange this too (but no promises)

Thanks

[TommiNieminen]

Hi Dave,

I've used memoQ in the free mode for testing the plugin (memoQ is pretty good in that respect, it's a lot harder to test Trados, since their trial versions expire, and I don't want to buy licenses for three different Trados releases that we support). But the downside is I can't set up online projects with the free mode (and I'm not sure if I can even access online projects with the free mode). So I could use an online project for testing (and I'd appreciate if you can set that up), but I'm not sure whether it will work.

-Tommi

[SafeTex]

Hello Vicken 2 and everyone

Just to say that I contacted memoQ some time ago about Opus not working if the project is server based and they are trying to help Opus resolve this by providing whatever Opus might need to solve this. Not sure how this will work out as I'm not a programmer but there is some hope that one day...