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Feature Request: Support the Wyze Doorbell Cam which has NO microsd at all.

Open famewolf opened this issue 5 years ago • 60 comments

One of the biggest disappointments for many people on the wyze doorbell cam was that it doesn't have a microsd for local storage. If we can mount a nfs share identical to how we are doing now it can be used along with wyzecam-hls and shinobi.

famewolf avatar Jan 04 '21 02:01 famewolf

interesting. it uses the same SoC as the wyze cam v3.

I don't see any firmware available yet though...

gtxaspec avatar Jan 06 '21 03:01 gtxaspec

I don't think it's even shipped yet but I have one pre-ordered. We'd also have to come up with some method to review the footage...I saw a scripts which will take an sdcard and create a mp4 of an entire day for viewing....this would be useful for all the cams as wyzecam-hls's thread is unreliable...I could only get it to work with shinobi but even there it's missing alot of time that IS being saved to the nfs share because I can view it from inside the app.

famewolf avatar Jan 06 '21 05:01 famewolf

I have one and confirm they are very similar to the camera except the lack of sd card. I haven't really looked at it yet, it's on my list but busy due to holidays:)

HclX avatar Jan 09 '21 21:01 HclX

I’m beta testing so have several permutations of the hardware from orig to prerelease. I only opened up one due to an assembly glitch that pinched and split the WiFi antenna wire which I reported and got a replacement. Others told me the cam itself was same as v2. However, they did a hardware revision and I only have the one so haven’t opened it, appears to be the pre-release retail version. The cam may be more like outdoor cam, which I think is same as v2, don’t think it’s the v3 cam since it doesn’t seem to have same low light ability. I’m only a chem engr, not into coding, but I’d love to try loading this fw onto an older unit to make it useful as a monitoring cam. So far the old units still work but with no ssd card and no cloud connection, they are simply dumb cams for live streaming, plus they could block them in the retail app making them totally useless.

cheme75 avatar Jan 26 '21 14:01 cheme75

I just received my pre-order video doorbell today and am reviewing the install instructions on youtube. I should be available to beta test a version should you need another tester.

famewolf avatar Feb 02 '21 00:02 famewolf

there is a hidden micro USB port above the power contacts under a sticker, the unit can also be powered using micro USB. just fyi

gtxaspec avatar Feb 02 '21 00:02 gtxaspec

there is a hidden micro USB port above the power contacts under a sticker, the unit can also be powered using micro USB. just fyi

Have you checked if an OTG cable with a sd card reader would give it a sdcard? Some of the OTG cables are tiny and so are the readers. I have some of these: https://www.adafruit.com/product/2910 Thanks for the info!

famewolf avatar Feb 02 '21 00:02 famewolf

no clue, I discovered it from reviewing the fcc docs, and it was confirmed by another user on the wyzecam subreddit. still waiting for them to come back in stock so I can get a few.

gtxaspec avatar Feb 02 '21 00:02 gtxaspec

no clue, I discovered it from reviewing the fcc docs, and it was confirmed by another user on the wyzecam subreddit. still waiting for them to come back in stock so I can get a few.

Just to confirm...you are not talking about the sticker that has the qr code? I have what appears to be a rubber plug above the terminals as opposed to a sticker. (I assume to waterproof it) IMG_20210201_194440

famewolf avatar Feb 02 '21 00:02 famewolf

another user said it was a sticker, it could be a rubber plug. ref https://fccid.io/2AUIUWVDB1/Internal-Photos/Internal-Photos-4957362.pdf

gtxaspec avatar Feb 02 '21 00:02 gtxaspec

It’s not a plug, just a rubber sticker to keep moisture out of the USB port. It peels off once you can lift an edge to grab it. I assume it’s how they load up the initial firmware. I’m powering a couple of early beta models just for viewing the live stream since they still connect to the beta app. But haven’t been able to connect one to my pc yet.

cheme75 avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 cheme75

It’s not a plug, just a rubber sticker to keep moisture out of the USB port. It peels off once you can lift an edge to grab it. I assume it’s how they load up the initial firmware. I’m powering a couple of early beta models just for viewing the live stream since they still connect to the beta app. But haven’t been able to connect one to my pc yet.

Thanks...I wasn't being enthusiastic and pulling it up till I made sure I didn't mess something up. The tears in picture are huge compared to actual viewing.

famewolf avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 famewolf

Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Ribbon-Degree-Angled-Female-Charging/dp/B07Q9K64PN/ plus a microsd card reader like the one I listed above might work. Hopefully there are cheaper versions on ebay.

famewolf avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 famewolf

I’m really new at this so will have to read on how to hack the V2 and see if maybe there’s some insight on getting into the db.

cheme75 avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 cheme75

I’m really new at this so will have to read on how to hack the V2 and see if maybe there’s some insight on getting into the db.

Well HclX is currently working on the v3 cams so might be a while although the "send a modded firmware update" method seems to be a "universal" solution for now since the updates are unsigned.

famewolf avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 famewolf

Guys, I took a brief look at the firmware of the doorbell. I don't think recording onto nfs share is possible as they don't have that code compiled. It's possible to enable telnet support (which I remember I already enabled in latest release) but not much you can get from there.

Also, the micro usb port might be a usb otg port but I don't have a cable splitter to verify that.

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I’m really new at this so will have to read on how to hack the V2 and see if maybe there’s some insight on getting into the db.

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HclX avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 HclX

Could you possibly take the compiled NFS execs and libs from the Cam v3 and put them on the doorbell?

thompatry avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 thompatry

That might be possible, but you will get a v3 camera and lose the doorbell functionality:)

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Could you possibly take the compiled NFS execs and libs from the Cam v3 and put them on the doorbell?

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HclX avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 HclX

Could the doorbell ftp to a ip on the lan (with or without user/password) and upload the 1 minute files..perhaps maintaining the connection?

famewolf avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 famewolf

No need to use ftp, I can get NFS mounted. The problem is camera won't record anything on filesystem, so no way to get the video out without drastically change the camera executable.

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Could the doorbell ftp to a ip on the lan (with or without user/password) and upload the 1 minute files..perhaps maintaining the connection?

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HclX avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 HclX

I see, so the doorbell does not record ANY video to the file system, i wonder how and where it caches (probably to ram?) it and uploads it to the cloud. (probably does it only on motion anyway) And there still isn't a way to make the video devices accessible by multiple programs I assume...

gtxaspec avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 gtxaspec

Well crap...I was hoping it at least kept the previous minute until the current one overwrote it.

On Feb 1 2021, at 8:35 pm, HclX [email protected] wrote:

No need to use ftp, I can get NFS mounted. The problem is camera won't record anything on filesystem, so no way to get the video out without drastically change the camera executable.

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Could the doorbell ftp to a ip on the lan (with or without user/password) and upload the 1 minute files..perhaps maintaining the connection?

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famewolf avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 famewolf

You would have to looking into the connecting to the camera node. I know someone out there was working on something like this for the latest Cam v2 firmware. The were trying to get RSTP to work while keeping the latest firmware.

thompatry avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 thompatry

The db just does the default 12sec but it’s camplus capable so there must be a tweak to disable the 12 sec limit.

cheme75 avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 cheme75

It does seem to upload and replay from the cloud since a lot of replay problems have been due to the servers. Rtsp fw would be nice to see happen.

cheme75 avatar Feb 02 '21 01:02 cheme75

It does seem to upload and replay from the cloud since a lot of replay problems have been due to the servers. Rtsp fw would be nice to see happen.

Bad design on wyze's part...not all of us have high speed internet (I use a wifi hotspot and get 10 to 16 megabit...funny how that's slow nowadays but a while back that was the best you could get from cable tv). Not being able to view a cam locally is already a major pain since it uploads it all so wyze's server can download it to my phone. If I view to many at once it starts telling me to downgrade quality.

famewolf avatar Feb 02 '21 03:02 famewolf

Ya, I’m not thrill with the wyze. I bought a V2 simply to watch front door area for package delivery notifications since they advertised free person detection. Now it’s a subscription. I bought a set of plugs and they work ok but they just replace old timers that also worked fine, just more convenient for operating via app or by voice with Alexa. Got a pair of bulbs free in a promo deal and they are ok. I don’t really have much need for automation beyond simple toggling on at sunset and off at bedtime. The big weakness became very apparent when our internet service junction box got flooded and service started dropping out. None of the wyze stuff worked. The dbell actually failed completely refusing to reconnect. They sent a replacement which has been ok and I returned the failed unit but I never heard about the cause. Got a new line run from junction box to house so at least internet had been ok again.

cheme75 avatar Feb 02 '21 04:02 cheme75

Well I gambled with my pre-order and guess I just barely got my $50 worth unlike the thermostat which was considerably more bang for the buck. I mean I already have a wireless doorbell that rings both the normal chime plus a plug in one on opposite side of the house and could have easily mounted a v2 cam where it could record folks approaching the door. I hesitated when I was writing to microsd because a camera that low could literally be ripped off the wall and taken with whoever might be up to no good but now I'd at least have the nfs feed. Win some and lose some I guess. I need to setup my raspberry pi to upload the video files to a cloud service. There is a script called wyzecombiner someone wrote that will takes all the little files and spit out a daily video file.

famewolf avatar Feb 02 '21 04:02 famewolf

We live in so flo due to wife’s job relo to Miami so did a lot of research. Luckily I had a cousin who lived here a while and my wife had good connections at work so we’re advised of best locations to settle. We chose south west broward county rather than Miami and it’s been a good decision from low crime to one of the lowest rates of covid in all of so flo. Anyway, we’re in 24/7 guard gated community with just one access road so exceptionally low incidents of any sort here. I was surprised to read on nextdoor a person a few blocks over had pkgs stolen. Probably a one off since we never heard any fallout or repeat offenses. I looked at the available db cams but most all were expensive and required subscriptions so turned me off. Looked at alt cams and saw quite a few, wyze had good reviews and free person detection with 14 days cloud stg. So for $20 I figured I’d setup a cam to watch front, we have a sidelight window next to front door and a privacy film so no one can see in. Original person AI was ok, missed at times since I have to keep cam on it’s side to get view of both the landing for packages and vertically for faces, and being inside wasn’t able to use IR lights on it at night. But there’s an overhead sensor light that works well to illuminate the area. Long story, it works for our needs. The new wyze AI is better finally, and it’s grandfathered into a pay what you want for the person detection, I pay zero since that’s why I bought it. I’m following these hacks since we plan to relo out of so flo for retirement and I can see benefits of using these cams for security in more open communities, but I refuse to get sucked into a subscription. Id probably look to the rtsp firmware so. I could use better software and these hacks for local stg on my NAS.

cheme75 avatar Feb 02 '21 14:02 cheme75

Sadly the rtsp firmware is WAY out of date and you'd totally lose all the cloud upload. I've also read it's flaky. I've debated the issue myself as I have a couple of nas's as well and have played around with shinobi and a couple of other cam monitoring packages.

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We live in so flo due to wife’s job relo to Miami so did a lot of research. Luckily I had a cousin who lived here a while and my wife had good connections at work so we’re advised of best locations to settle. We chose south west broward county rather than Miami and it’s been a good decision from low crime to one of the lowest rates of covid in all of so flo. Anyway, we’re in 24/7 guard gated community with just one access road so exceptionally low incidents of any sort here. I was surprised to read on nextdoor a person a few blocks over had pkgs stolen. Probably a one off since we never heard any fallout or repeat offenses. I looked at the available db cams but most all were expensive and required subscriptions so turned me off. Looked at alt cams and saw quite a few, wyze had good reviews and free person detection with 14 days cloud stg. So for $20 I figured I’d setup a cam to watch front, we have a sidelight window next to front door and a privacy film so no one can see in. Original person AI was ok, missed at times since I have to keep cam on it’s side to get view of both the landing for packages and vertically for faces, and being inside wasn’t able to use IR lights on it at night. But there’s an overhead sensor light that works well to illuminate the area. Long story, it works for our needs. The new wyze AI is better finally, and it’s grandfathered into a pay what you want for the person detection, I pay zero since that’s why I bought it. I’m following these hacks since we plan to relo out of so flo for retirement and I can see benefits of using these cams for security in more open communities, but I refuse to get sucked into a subscription. Id probably look to the rtsp firmware so. I could use better software and these hacks for local stg on my NAS. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub (https://github.com/HclX/WyzeHacks/issues/69#issuecomment-771661166), or unsubscribe (https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABCY74HQMXD5T2XLVSEIDEDS5ABZLANCNFSM4VSMNDIQ).

famewolf avatar Feb 02 '21 16:02 famewolf