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No option to start on Packages tab

Open nascentt opened this issue 2 years ago • 5 comments

First launch is General (options) tab. Should be packages by default, or at least have intallation option to select packages by default.

This first-run design is offputting to casual users.

nascentt avatar Aug 18 '21 08:08 nascentt

I disagree, you need to set the program up before using it.

JohnLGalt avatar Aug 18 '21 20:08 JohnLGalt

Then handywinget is completely invalidated from corporate use. There's no way a company is rolling out a product that has to be configured on first use

On Wed, 18 Aug 2021, 9:03 pm John L. Galt, @.***> wrote:

I disagree, you need to set the program up before using it.

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nascentt avatar Aug 18 '21 20:08 nascentt

Casual users versus corporate users?

Pretty big difference there.

It has to connect to see what you have installed and what the latest packages are available from Microsoft, too. Kinda hard to pre-package a database as it changes regularly, and increases the download size, for no reason, as the first thing you'd want to do is ... yeah, update to the latest database to begin with.

Besides, there's not an .MSI installer either, so also invalidated for many corporate-use scenarios.

Finally, most corporate IT personnel would probably use their home-developed scripts to automatically install needed apps on their own upon user login, versus giving end users the ability to install app on the fly at their own whim.

Just saying.

JohnLGalt avatar Aug 23 '21 17:08 JohnLGalt

I'm well aware of how some companies are set up. As a Windows engineer of one of them that has plans to switch from Chocolatey to Winget as we actually allow staff to install software. I was considering handywinget as a successor to chocolatey-gui.

Having an application to build a cache upon first connection on first use is not a new concept of a difficult concept.

I'll just end with some feedback that you may want to work on your attitude. Just saying.

On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, 6:53 pm John L. Galt, @.***> wrote:

Casual users versus corporate users?

Pretty big difference there.

It has to connect to see what you have installed and what the latest packages are available from Microsoft, too. Kinda hard to pre-package a database as it changes regularly, and increases the download size, for no reason, as the first thing you'd want to do is ... yeah, update to the latest database to begin with.

Besides, there's not an .MSI installer either, so also invalidated for many corporate-use scenarios.

Finally, most corporate IT personnel would probably use their home-developed scripts to automatically install needed apps on their own upon user login, versus giving end users the ability to install app on the fly at their own whim.

Just saying.

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nascentt avatar Aug 23 '21 19:08 nascentt

Sadly, you don't realize that I am not the developer of this program.

Perhaps you could direct your angst elsewhere - I'm a user of the app. Nothing more.

So, perhaps you could check your own attitude and perhaps your observation skills before you come ranting at me.

I provided you with a reason that you simply don't want to accept - not my problem, bro. If you think you want it done differently but don't care to qualify any of your supposed feedback, good luck in getting any actual attention for your feedback.

JohnLGalt avatar Aug 23 '21 20:08 JohnLGalt