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Duplicate term: MIXS:0000102 & MIXS:0000504. Deprecate MIXS:0000504?

Open StantonMartin opened this issue 4 years ago • 7 comments

the term nitro as well as tot_nitro_content are both in MixS? They are defined almost synonymously, but the tot_nitro_content term allows for more units:

tot_nitro_content units: microgram per liter, micromole per liter, milligram per liter

nitro units: micromole per liter

should this term be standardized across the two packages?

StantonMartin avatar Apr 07 '21 20:04 StantonMartin

To be discussed on next CIG call. It looks to make sense to replace nitro in the Misc package.

lschriml avatar Jan 07 '25 20:01 lschriml

check INSDC database for term usage

turbomam avatar Mar 11 '25 15:03 turbomam

We have multiple very similar terms for nitrogen:

URI label definition
MIXS:0000102 total nitrogen concentration (tot_nitro) Total nitrogen concentration of water samples, calculated by: total nitrogen = total dissolved nitrogen + particulate nitrogen. Can also be measured without filtering, reported as nitrogen
MIXS:0000504 nitrogen (nitro) Concentration of nitrogen (total)
MIXS:0000338 total nitrogen content method (tot_nitro_cont_meth) Reference or method used in determining the total nitrogen
MIXS:0000744 total dissolved nitrogen (tot_diss_nitro) Total dissolved nitrogen concentration, reported as nitrogen, measured by: total dissolved nitrogen = NH4 + NO3NO2 + dissolved organic nitrogen
MIXS:0000162 dissolved organic nitrogen (diss_org_nitro) Dissolved organic nitrogen concentration measured as; total dissolved nitrogen - NH4 - NO3 - NO2
MIXS:0000205 organic nitrogen (org_nitro) Concentration of organic nitrogen
MIXS:0000530 total nitrogen content (tot_nitro_content) Total nitrogen content of the sample
MIXS:0000698 dissolved inorganic nitrogen (diss_inorg_nitro) Concentration of dissolved inorganic nitrogen
MIXS:0000719 particulate organic nitrogen (part_org_nitro) Concentration of particulate organic nitrogen
MIXS:0000745 total inorganic nitrogen (tot_inorg_nitro) Total inorganic nitrogen content

Maybe its because I'm not an expert in the field, but to me it seems like over-kill to have so many possible terms to capture measurements of Nitrogen. @turbomam would it be possible to get usage stats for each of those terms? If there are quite a few that have zero usage then maybe we can simplfy the choices available!

Eitherway, I think its pretty clear that MIXS:0000504 can be deprecated as a duplicate of MIXS:0000102 as long as we make the definition of 102 more generic (i.e. not water specific.)

only1chunts avatar Apr 17 '25 17:04 only1chunts

here are the counts of harmonized attribute assertions that contain the string "nitro" in NCBI Biosamples as of 2025-03-14

harmonized_name count
carb_nitro_ratio 6919
diss_inorg_nitro 2985
diss_org_nitro 7700
nitro 15943
org_nitro 7430
part_org_nitro 4314
tot_diss_nitro 7610
tot_inorg_nitro 1431
tot_nitro 46896
tot_nitro_cont_meth 815

turbomam avatar Apr 22 '25 13:04 turbomam

  • not in @only1chunts 's list: carb_nitro_ratio
  • not used as a harmonized_name or a verbatim attribute_name in NCBI Biosamples: tot_nitro_content

turbomam avatar Apr 22 '25 13:04 turbomam

Thanks @turbomam. So another low-hanging fruit action here would be to deprecate MIXS:0000530 | total nitrogen content (tot_nitro_content) as its the same as MIX:0000102 and its never been used anyway.

What we do with the rest of them I'm not sure!

only1chunts avatar Apr 22 '25 14:04 only1chunts

comment by @mslarae13 there is historic reason for MIX:0000102 being water specific, something to do with the expected values meant to be of the water surrounding the hydrocarbons being sampled. at the CIG call we discussed things again and its apparent that we have got a lot of terms, but we dont have enough for every eventuality (e.g. people collect ammonia, or urea or other specific compounds, not just "organic" or "inorganic"). We dont know what to do, but maybe there is a way to offer a single term for “nitrogen” content with some sort of structured value to indicate exactly what measurement(s) were done and their values and units? Perhaps that can be expanded to be a compound attribute which asks for “measured compound/chemical” & “measurement method” & “measured value” & “measured unit” where each field is taken from a controlled vocab (except the value).

only1chunts avatar Apr 22 '25 15:04 only1chunts