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"selected" is read on every treeitem

Open dimovpetar opened this issue 1 year ago • 8 comments

Summary

  1. Go to https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/apg/patterns/treeview/examples/treeview-navigation/#ex_label
  2. Navigate in the tree using the arrow keys

Expected result

Only the first tree item is announced as "selected"

Actual result

Every tree item is announced as "selected"

Example

https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/apg/patterns/treeview/examples/treeview-navigation/#ex_label

Additional Information

JAWS version and build number

JAWS 2023.2307.37

Operating System and version

Windows 11

Browser and version:

Google Chrome 123

dimovpetar avatar Apr 18 '24 13:04 dimovpetar

Problem also occurs with JAWS 2024.

In my opinion, however, this is not a JAWS problem. This is because the focussed list entry is automatically the selected one. In this respect, the output is correct.

The entry that refers to the current page is marked with aria-current=page and this is also output correctly by JAWS.

A ticket could be set up with ARIA APG so that you can modify their example: All entries should marked with aria-selected=false except for the entry that refers to the current page: This should marked with aria-selected=true instead of aria-current. The output would then be better.

JAWS-test avatar Apr 20 '24 09:04 JAWS-test

If the status selected is not output, other users complain, see: https://github.com/FreedomScientific/standards-support/issues/733

JAWS-test avatar Apr 20 '24 09:04 JAWS-test

Hello @JAWS-test,

I do not agree that this is not a JAWS issue, as in the accessibility tree of the Chrome devs tools by default all "treeiterms" are "selected:false", why do we need to pollute the html with default values. Screenshot 2024-04-22 at 13 57 40

"This should marked with aria-selected=true instead of aria-current." This contrdictes the wia aria-aria-1.2, which states : "In some use cases for widgets that support aria-selected, current and selected can have different meanings and can both be used within the same set of elements. For example, aria-current="page" can be used in a navigation tree to indicate which page is currently displayed, while aria-selected="true" indicates which page will be displayed if the user activates the treeitem. Furthermore, the same tree may support operating on one or more selected pages (treeitems) by way of a context menu containing options such as "delete" and "move.""

I my opinion aria attributes should not be added, to fix a ccurrent issue.

Best Regards, Gergana

GerganaKremenska avatar Apr 22 '24 11:04 GerganaKremenska

https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.3/#aria-selected:

The option, tab, and treeitem roles permit user agents to provide an implicit value for aria-selected when specified conditions are met. User agents MUST NOT provide an implicit value for aria-selected in any other circumstance.

https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.3/#option

In certain conditions, a user agent MAY provide an implicit value for aria-selected for each option in a listbox, and if it does, the user agent MUST ensure the following conditions are met before providing an implicit value:

The value of aria-multiselectable on the listbox is false or undefined. None of the option elements in the listbox have an explicitly declared value for aria-selected or aria-checked.

If a user agent provides an implicit aria-selected value for an option, the value SHOULD be true if the option has DOM focus or the listbox has DOM focus and the option is referenced by aria-activedescendant. Otherwise, if a user agent provides an implicit aria-selected value for an option, the value SHOULD be false.

JAWS-test avatar Apr 22 '24 11:04 JAWS-test

@JAWS-test May I please know if you're actively looking into this issue? We see different behaviour between NVDA and JAWS for the same problem.

sai-tej avatar Jul 01 '24 16:07 sai-tej

@sai-tej although @JAWS-test is a valued contributor, he does not work for Freedom Scientific, the best person to ask is @BrettLewisVispero

stevefaulkner avatar Jul 01 '24 16:07 stevefaulkner

Hi, are there any updates related to this issue? We have tested with JAWS 2025 and latest Chrome, and the issue still persists. @BrettLewisVispero

Thanks Nalini

Webhac avatar Apr 30 '25 18:04 Webhac

As @JAWS-test pointed out, the chrome dev tools show each item as selected in the treeview if you look at the accessibility tree. We are just reporting the state as given to us by the example. I don't see this as a bug on the JAWS side.

BrettLewisVispero avatar Apr 30 '25 19:04 BrettLewisVispero