Feodor2
"Reduzierte WEB.DE Homepage" = Reduced ... Homepage
Reduzierte WEB.DE Homepage. Aufgrund eines alten Browsers oder ungewöhnlicher Browser-Einstellungen sehen Sie eine verkürzte WEB.DE Homepage. Wir empfehlen die Verwendung eines aktuellen Browsers.
Google translate: "Reduced WEB.DE homepage. Due to an old browser or unusual browser settings, you see a shortened WEB.DE homepage. We recommend using a current browser."
(web.de is a german big email-provider.)
(Oh, now, the 68.13.1b, lets me edit here on github again. Great.)
woops, after logging in it works complete. So now still just confusing the first message "due to an old browser".
Go to about:config add general.useragent.override.web.de (String) paste some current browser user agent Click OK and reload the website
Hm. That´s the only thing that works, so far:
(If works: This is saved in ´appdata´, not in ´Programs -> Mypal´, please, for update of Mypal does not change this ? Thanks.)
Thanks a lot. This way ?
Sorry, did a restart of mypal, not XP itself, if this necessary. No change, the message still appears.
Thanks a lot. This way ?
Almost. The value of your string should be not true but something that looks like a real useragent string of any modern browser.
OK. Thank You.
On XP I only have New Moon, Pale Moon, Mypal.
A pic from Pale Moon here. But here I am not familiar with, need step by step, please. Thanks.
But this default string for web.de there ( at palemoon-28.10.6a1 -xpmod) does make this message also: Achtung: Ihr Browser ist veraltet! Wir empfehlen den Firefox Browser. (Attention: Your browser is outdated. We recommend Firefox Browser.) So did not try.
There is a collection of useragent strings of everything (and different versions of Firefox in particular).
But take into account that reaction of site may be different for different version of user agent, so sometimes it is better to use some older fake string then the newest one.
It is only Pale Moon there, not New Moon, not Mypal in this list.
And Pale Moon only a very old version for Windows NT 5.1 (XP).
With ´palemoon-28.10.6a1 -xpmod´ I get a reduced functions site.
This I even prefer instead of the very slow very full blowed
up´professionell´ Web-Site, web.de Mail-Provider.
And this whole trouble just comes from OE6 now is missing the now new required TLS 1.1 or/and TLS 1.2.
Which as topic is closed now here.
But so far the discussion is going to far for here, as is said to me. OK.
Thank You very much.
You missed the point: you may use useragent string of any browser.
But, naturally, fake useragent helps mainly for sites that reject your browser without any good reason, or simply because they do not know its name.
And yes - some sites really use different versions of their pages for different versions of browser. Usually pages for old browser are not so funny (have less bells and whistles), but work faster.
THis was once my question here: what does web_de (a site so) recognize this (an) old browser at all. Thank You very much, this is the answer, they do not know its name.
The now copied string from Pale Moon has at the end (Pale Moon) I did see. My idea already was to change to (Mypal), then after now first test this with (Pale Moon). Your explaining does confirm this now to me. Very well. Let´s see. I´ll report.
OK. Doesn´t work this way. What is wrong with this string ? general.useragent.override.web.de (von Pale Moon); "general.useragent.override.web.de;Mozilla/5.0 (%OS_SLICE% rv:68.9) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.9 (Mypal)"
THis was once my question here: what does web_de (a site so) recognize this (an) old browser at all.
useragent string consists of a number of tokens (separated by spaces) that allow to identify the browser (its version, HTML engine, features). There is no strict standard for this string, and it is vendor-specific, but there are some descriptions: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/User-Agent/Firefox , https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/internet-explorer/ie-developer/compatibility/ms537503%28v=vs.85%29
How Web server analyzes and interprets string that browser send to it as a part of a HTTP request, depends solely on this Web site programmers.
What is wrong with this string ?
Can not tell anything about Pale Moon, but (Mypal) token looks suspiciously for me because of its format - it should be similar to Firefox and Gecko tokens (without parentheses, but with a slash). Also it is not necessary here at all.
(And, AFAIK, %OS_SLICE% variable is a Pale Moon specific that is not supported by Firefox and MyPal.)
On my MyPal I tried "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:99.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/99.0" (copied from https://www.useragentstring.com/pages/Firefox/), and WEB.DE showed its front page without warnings about reduced page version and old browser.
"depends solely on this Web site programmers"; and what is getting as answer, and what is being wanted to be done with it. Thank You.
Thanks Your string. But You use ´my´ ´mypal 68.13.1b en´ version the 64-Bit version, at least. You run on Windows 10. And with a lot more newer Firefox version. I may see from this string. Currently I just stop to try this for XP with Firefox 52.0.1 (32-Bit) Mozilla Firefox EME-free - 1.0. Sorry.
But You use ´my´ ´mypal 68.13.1b en´ version the 64-Bit version, at least. You run on Windows 10. And with a lot more newer Firefox version.
No-no-no. I use MyPal 68.13.2b on 32-bit Windows XP. (What is the point to use it on newer Windows versions?) And I do not have Firefox at all.
Windows 10, 64 bit, Firefox 99 - this is a content of useragent string that I "borrowed" from www.useragentstring.com and used for general.useragent.override.web.de in the MyPal settings - just to check will WEB.DE be normally working with it or not.
Ah. OK. Sorry, my misunderstanding.
Firefox, the last version for XP, I do not use, I do understand it as precondition with for Mypal, may be not understanding correctly.
"and WEB.DE showed its front page without warnings about reduced page version and old browser": OK. Did not realize this statement, sorry. Sounds only good. Next try, today. Thank You very much.
Unusual case. I decided to show you a screenshot, opened WEB.DE and sow "Achtung: Ihr Browser ist varaltet!"
But yesterday everything was OK!
So I decided to start from the very beginning. I removed "general.useragent.override.web.de" from browser config and deleted all tracks of the WEB.DE by selecting "Forget about this site" in the browser's history. Then I opened WEB.DE:
Then I added
"general.useragent.override.web.de;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:99.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/99.0", cleared history and opened the site:
And then I disabled uBlock Origin for this site, reloaded the page (F5), and voilà:
It is interesting that re-enabling uBlock Origin after that changes the page look - makes it similar to step 2 but without "Achtung: Ihr Browser ist varaltet!" at the top.
Also declaring current version of Firefox ("Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:117.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/117.0") at step 2 allows to see the site page without "Achtung: Ihr Browser ist varaltet!" banner immediately (no need to disable uBO prior).
I do not use: uBlock Origin.
But some weired things are happening at web.de there.
The first call the site shows this:
After second call, this (and log-in works):
As next I want to try to remove the new done key ´general.useragent´ again as try, whether it still works the same. So I´ll do the key Reset. And do re-boot XP. I´ll report.
OK. The message appears again:
But: despite the message ´reduced´ the full functional site happens.
But the message at all to prevent, not to have, the key create again. general.useragent.override.web.de;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:99.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/99.0
This seems to do it. (Now first has to happen again, at least after a few times (of log-ins), the site.)
Thank You very much this very helpful contact, this exchange.
All the best.