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Open diatomsRcool opened this issue 5 years ago • 11 comments

One way to manage this is to say that if someone is the recipient of violence then they have been exposure to violence constructed using violent behavior in NBO. To say that someone is exposed to violence in their surroundings, we could construct a "violent environment" class in ENVO. Thoughts?

diatomsRcool avatar Aug 27 '19 19:08 diatomsRcool

I think NBO classes should be used only to model behavior performed by the annotated specimen, and ENVO to model external behavior received/exposed to..

matentzn avatar Aug 28 '19 04:08 matentzn

OK, that makes sense. I feel like I've heard you say that before. Apologies, if I'm making you repeat.

diatomsRcool avatar Aug 28 '19 12:08 diatomsRcool

Nahhh :P Not at all! Just wondering wether @pbuttigieg also agrees!

matentzn avatar Aug 28 '19 13:08 matentzn

I am unsure. I don't think we want to generally shadow NBO activities in ENVO but I can see the argument for doing this in special cases.

E.g. "landscape of fear" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5600181/

Also I think a term in ENVO for something like "landscape of kindness" would be delightful

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 6:36 AM Nico Matentzoglu [email protected] wrote:

Nahhh :P Not at all! Just wondering wether @pbuttigieg https://github.com/pbuttigieg also agrees!

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cmungall avatar Aug 28 '19 22:08 cmungall

I can see this happening, and of great utility to ontologies like SDGIO.

This could work with our "hazard" semantics in SDGIO: a landscape of fear would be an environmental system within which there exist processes where system components relaise hazard dispositions with increased frequency.

That would accommodate the idea that some component (continuant) must have participated in a process involving violence.

pbuttigieg avatar Aug 29 '19 12:08 pbuttigieg

@cmungall we could use both for STAGE, actually ;) How about a "hazardous environment" and a "pleasant environment" and then I can subclass as needed?

diatomsRcool avatar Aug 29 '19 14:08 diatomsRcool

I think making it a system is too strong? The boundaries of the landscape don't necessarily have any borders with common determinants. Unless we think this is a system 'determined by' a shark/wolf etc... but this gets even stranger for socioeconomic landscapes.

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 5:13 AM Pier Luigi Buttigieg < [email protected]> wrote:

I can see this happening, and of great utility to ontologies like SDGIO.

This could work with our "hazard" semantics in SDGIO: a landscape of fear would be an environmental system within which there exist processes where system components relaise hazard dispositions with increased frequency.

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cmungall avatar Aug 29 '19 15:08 cmungall

Yep - but let's not build in anthropocentrism to ENVO. These will always be relative to one organisms' or population of organisms' perspective.

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@cmungall https://github.com/cmungall we could use both for STAGE, actually ;) How about a "hazardous environment" and a "pleasant environment" and then I can subclass as needed?

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cmungall avatar Aug 29 '19 15:08 cmungall

Should I go ahead and to a PR or is there a more appropriate way forward?

diatomsRcool avatar Aug 30 '19 14:08 diatomsRcool

I think making it a system is too strong?

Is that because a system is a subclass of material entity? What about making them subclasses of environmental zone?

diatomsRcool avatar Sep 03 '19 16:09 diatomsRcool

yes:

def: "A site which has its extent determined by the presence or influence of one or more components of an environmental system or the processes occurring therein." []

zone seems ideal

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I think making it a system is too strong?

Is that because a system is a subclass of material entity? What about making them subclasses of environmental zone?

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cmungall avatar Sep 25 '19 01:09 cmungall