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"Cool S"

Open rektide opened this issue 7 years ago • 18 comments

The diamond "S" should have a unicode character.

This guy:

  ʌ
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/   \
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\ \/
/\  \
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\   /
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  v

See other examples about: https://mobile.twitter.com/JFriedhoff/status/971174957517590528

rektide avatar Mar 07 '18 20:03 rektide

Hm, as a math symbol? You would need to show some existing uses, the older the better.

Crissov avatar Mar 07 '18 21:03 Crissov

This is definitely not a math symbol. :p The tweet was a joke.

It is however a very common ~2 decade old cultural artifact.

rektide avatar Mar 07 '18 22:03 rektide

References:

Wikipedia link

rektide avatar Mar 07 '18 22:03 rektide

I understand that the tweet was a joke, but I'm not sure whether your intention to get this symbol encoded is, too. I suggested treating it as a (math) symbol because otherwise the question whether it should be part of a complete Latin alphabet is inevitable. To be considered for encoding it would need sufficient evidence that it is used either in or like text, not as purely decorative artwork. I highly doubt it would qualify as a new emoji, since the ESC/UTC is now almost only adding pictographs as newly encoded characters. (They are adding an infinity symbol to Emoji 11.0 using an existing character.)

Crissov avatar Mar 08 '18 11:03 Crissov

Seen in use as a replacement S this weekend in a town with a population < 200. This is clearly in regular use in places divorced from internet culture and should be added. jpeg_20180415_131826_1551579949 ](url)

cnelson avatar Apr 16 '18 05:04 cnelson

@cnelson Since it is used as a stylistic variant of a plain S in the word strawberry here, this does nothing to support its encoding as a separate symbol or letter.

Crissov avatar Apr 16 '18 08:04 Crissov

We obviously need a "cool" modifier then?

rektide avatar Jul 20 '18 15:07 rektide

🆒

sdaitzman avatar Jul 26 '20 23:07 sdaitzman

What about a ZWJ solution?

U+1F192 SQUARED COOL U+200D ZERO-WIDTH JOINER U+0053 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S

marnanel avatar Dec 15 '21 18:12 marnanel

I think this genuinely warrants its own character. It's definitely not a math symbol, and while it may sometimes be used as a stylistic 'S' it is much more than that. It's a symbol with unknown origin that many people across many cultures inexplicably draw. I think the best fit would be in the other-symbol group -- think of it as a fleur-de-lis for middle-schoolers. The geometric category could be a good fit as well.

For a recent cultural reference point, see today's XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2690/

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_S) lists documented appearances as early as 1973, though there's speculation it dates back to the 1890s. Basquiat even hid them in some of his paintings.

sdelaughter avatar Oct 26 '22 16:10 sdelaughter

Would it work as a variant form of 𝕊 U+1D54A MATHEMATICAL DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL S?

pinobatch avatar Dec 15 '22 04:12 pinobatch

My suggestion would be the Geometric Shapes Extended block, perhaps as U+1F7F1, as every other block that makes more sense is full, and I don't think this proposal alone justifies assigning a new Miscellaneous Symbols Extended block.

endrift avatar Jan 23 '23 00:01 endrift

One may find an extensive list of additional references / citations / &c. pp. here, courtesy of @LEMMiN0:

https://www.lemmi.no/p/the-universal-s

no-identd avatar May 02 '23 17:05 no-identd

This needs to happen.

AmigaEnjoyer avatar Jan 04 '24 02:01 AmigaEnjoyer