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Talon UGV killbots spawning on street overmap

Open LyleSY opened this issue 3 years ago • 5 comments

Describe the bug

Early game player spawning near a bank can be gunned down by a Talon UGV with an automatic rifle with no ability to predict or counter the instakill

Steps to reproduce

Start a new world, spawn near a bank, explore the bank, see a killbot, run and get gunned down

Expected behavior

I was surprised to see military grade robots with automatic weapons spawning day one in a normal bank. That's not typical in the banks I've seen.

Screenshots

No response

Versions and configuration

Newest experimental on Mac, running DinoMod but not related

Additional context

In general IMO, a day one instakill with no counter is not good outside a challenge start

LyleSY avatar Aug 06 '22 14:08 LyleSY

We should remove them: https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/blob/3c5939e35be2d7db8341191290498a74133cd76f/data/json/mapgen/bank.json#L81 https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/blob/3c5939e35be2d7db8341191290498a74133cd76f/data/json/mapgen/bank.json#L230

Can probably also remove the { "action": "secubots" } from the computers.

anothersimulacrum avatar Aug 06 '22 17:08 anothersimulacrum

I think they spawn inside buildings, in rooms without windows so they should not bother you unless you go inside the bank yourself.

They also do not instakill you, they do single shot every 4-6 seconds, and while damaging (40-50 dmg) it does not instakill even a naked character.

They are also easy to avoid (make loud, unique noises) and easy to escape from (40 speed, cannot open doors).

But more importantly, they are quite useful because you can kill a good amount of zombies for you if you lead them to a strategic point.

Given all this, I don't think their removal is warranted.

x-qq avatar Aug 06 '22 19:08 x-qq

They don't make any sense, so their removal is warranted.

anothersimulacrum avatar Aug 06 '22 20:08 anothersimulacrum

"When the riots started, some of the banks have fortified their security systems with armed robots to dissuade the looters/rioters" makes a fairly good sense to me.

However, maybe there should be warning posters about them on bank doors/windows.

x-qq avatar Aug 06 '22 20:08 x-qq

Having them inside banks won't keep them inside as zombies smash up banks. Had an NPC killed by one as the bot targeted the meteorologist and killed her before I had a chance to prevent it.

PatrikLundell avatar Aug 07 '22 08:08 PatrikLundell