Canop
bacon v3.20.3 indirectly requires Rust 1.82
Hi,
Not really an issue but, while updating the NetBSD package which I will merge tomorrow, I found the following:
Installing bacon v3.20.3 (/usr/pkgsrc/wip/bacon/work/bacon-3.20.3)
Locking 307 packages to latest Rust 1.77 compatible versions
Adding wasip2 v1.0.1+wasi-0.2.4 (requires Rust 1.82.0)
Adding wit-bindgen v0.46.0 (requires Rust 1.82.0)
Finished `release` profile [optimized] target(s) in 1.22s
Although Cargo.toml says 1.77, it seems like 1.82 is actually required.
Thank you for the new release.
EDIT: Forgot to say, NetBSD will be on Rust-1.90 as default until some time after Christmas when Q4 stable branch is supposed to be released. After that we can again update Rust. So, MSRV 1.77 or 1.82 doesn't have a real impact here. Just thought you would like to know.
You appear to be building in an unlocked mode where the Cargo resolver is allowed to resolve the dependencies using the absolute latest ones available that fit the manifest pinning requirements. In the end you are building with some things newer than the minimum required versions. If you build with --locked it builds with what is in the lock file, and the lock file has been generated with an MSRV aware resolver and builds fine with 1.77.
For reproducibility sake I would suggest all distro packages be build with --locked (or even --frozen if your build tooling supports prefetching dependencies), but of course that is up to your distro's guidelines too. I don't know how NetBSD typically looks at that. You are free to build using whatever dependencies satisfy the version pinning and if your compiler is newer that 1.77 you are free to fill it with dependencies that happen to require something newer, but I think the MSRV still stands as valid.
c.f. #407 and #409.
@alerque Thank you for your reply. I understand what you are saying but all our builds are done in --offline mode.
That said and, after reading your comment, that got me thinking. So, I went looking at our wrapper cargo.mk,
As mentioned, I can see it indeed defaults to --offline but, I also see CARGO_ARGS?= build --release ${DEFAULT_CARGO_ARGS}
I've just modified it so it reads CARGO_ARGS?= build --release --frozen ${DEFAULT_CARGO_ARGS} or, CARGO_ARGS?= build --release --locked ${DEFAULT_CARGO_ARGS} but I get the same result as above.
Locking 307 packages to latest Rust 1.77 compatible versions
Adding wasip2 v1.0.1+wasi-0.2.4 (requires Rust 1.82.0)
Adding wit-bindgen v0.46.0 (requires Rust 1.82.0)
Looking at the Cargo.lock in the unpacked release tarball of bacon v3.20.3, I see:
[...]
3074 [[package]]
3075 name = "wasip2"
3076 version = "1.0.1+wasi-0.2.4"
3077 source = "registry+https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io-index"
3078 checksum = "0562428422c63773dad2c345a1882263bbf4d65cf3f42e90921f787ef5ad58e7"
3079 dependencies = [
3080 "wit-bindgen",
3081 ]
[...]
3516 [[package]]
3517 name = "wit-bindgen"
3518 version = "0.46.0"
3519 source = "registry+https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io-index"
3520 checksum = "f17a85883d4e6d00e8a97c586de764dabcc06133f7f1d55dce5cdc070ad7fe59"
[...]
i.e. exactly the same versions of these dependencies that have MSRV 1.82.
Fortunately, I always clean my distfiles directory after every build, so it's easy to see:
~> ls | grep wasi
.rw-r--r-- root 125 28 KB Thu Dec 11 07:58:10 2025 wasi-0.11.1+wasi-snapshot-preview1.crate
.rw-r--r-- root 125 129 KB Thu Dec 11 07:58:11 2025 wasip2-1.0.1+wasi-0.2.4.crate
~> ls | grep wit-bindgen
.rw-r--r-- root 125 59 KB Thu Dec 11 07:58:36 2025 wit-bindgen-0.46.0.crate
These were fetched before I actually start the build during what we call The fetch phase. In other words, the locked dependencies already require 1.82, unless I'm missing something.
There's a real problem which can't just be solved by the lock file.
The getrandom crate, which requires rust 1.63 depends on wasip which requires rust 1.82.
wasip2 v1.0.1+wasi-0.2.4
└── getrandom v0.3.4
└── tempfile v3.23.0
├── gix-odb v0.70.0
│ └── gix v0.73.0
│ └── bacon v3.20.3 (/home/dys/dev/bacon)
└── gix-tempfile v18.0.0
├── gix v0.73.0 (*)
├── gix-lock v18.0.0
│ ├── gix v0.73.0 (*)
│ ├── gix-index v0.41.0
│ │ ├── gix v0.73.0 (*)
│ │ └── gix-worktree v0.42.0
│ │ └── gix v0.73.0 (*)
│ ├── gix-ref v0.53.1
│ │ ├── gix v0.73.0 (*)
│ │ ├── gix-config v0.46.0
│ │ │ └── gix v0.73.0 (*)
│ │ ├── gix-discover v0.41.0
│ │ │ └── gix v0.73.0 (*)
│ │ └── gix-protocol v0.51.0
│ │ └── gix v0.73.0 (*)
│ └── gix-shallow v0.5.0
│ ├── gix v0.73.0 (*)
│ └── gix-protocol v0.51.0 (*)
└── gix-ref v0.53.1 (*)
https://crates.io/crates/getrandom/0.3.4/dependencies
@Canop Happy with your answer, thanks!
I'm glad to have verified that we are not downloading extra stuff at build time, as we are not supposed to do that.
Feel free to close this, as said this was not an issue to us to begin with and I'm happy that you pinpointed the exact issue.
So although bacon itself is fine with 1.77, some of it's crate dependencies are not. To me this formally turns bacon's MSRV into 1.82 which, should be fine everywhere these days.
Feel free to close this
No, I'd like the MSRV to be real.
Not sure yet about the best path: update bacon's MSRV or find a way to remove dependencies to unconsistent crates (which isn't easy).
The getrandom crate, which requires rust 1.63 depends on wasip which requires rust 1.82.
Is it possible that the wasip crate is actually incorrectly reporting it's MSRV? I've actually run test builds using Rustc 1.77 and don't seem to have a problem in that scenario. Perhaps the 1.82 requirement is only relevant for features that are not used here?
Not sure. It's quite some work to investigate as it requires to look at older versions, as new versions of getrandom have a MSRV of 1.85.
It's probably related to conditionnally compiled code, and probably code which has about no chance of being compiled for bacon (maybe wasm related).
The difference is in bacon features. The Bacon MSRV is valid for the default feature set. It does not cover all the optional features, specifically the audio feature requires a newer compiler.
None of Bacon v3.17.0, v3.18.0, v3.19.0, or v3.20.1 could be built with Cargo/Rustc 1.77. They all fail for various reasons. By contrast v3.20.3 can be built successfully using default features.
I believe this is a valid approach, many projects include things in optional features that fall outside the project MSRV. A less common approach used by some crates (e.g. snafu) is to default to a higher MSRV and have features for enabling reduced MSRV.
The difference is in bacon features. The Bacon MSRV is valid for the default feature set.
I don't think it's related to bacon features but to features or platforms in some dependencies. getrandom ultimately comes from the gix dependency.
You're right though that the "real" MSRV might not be 1.82 as it's unlikely to be really needed.
I know this is slightly out of topic but, why not just bumping to 1.85 and edition = 2024?
Would this cause trouble on any distro?
If we can get confident that wasip and wit-bindgen are only needed when compiling for wasm, which can't happen, then the real MSRV would still be 1.77
If we can get confident that
wasipandwit-bindgenare only needed when compiling for wasm, which can't happen, then the real MSRV would still be 1.77
Argh ... I've just cleaned my build log, else I could provide a list of everything that was actually built with default features. Would you like me to repeat the build? In the meantime I've just merged the package update.
No need for your log, I think. If somebody has enough time to look at the code asking for wasip and wit-bindgen, that would probably help close the issue. But the issue is probably not severe anyway.
Sometimes scroll back helps, it was still on my terminal ...
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