[BUG]:flutter sound is depreciated

[mkassir95]

I am using Flutter Sound LITE Version 8.4.2 , and I am getting this warning : Note: C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Pub\Cache\hosted\pub.dartlang.org\flutter_sound_lite-8.4.2\android\src\main\java\com\dooboolab\fluttersound\FlutterSound.java uses or overrides a deprecated API.

[alexda12]

This plugin is being retired : #780

[mkassir95]

what do you mean , there will not be any updated versions?

[alexda12]

@mkassir95 No updates for 45 days to this plugin and based on comments in #780 the project will shortly be terminated.

[mkassir95]

he did not says this , he say other people will continue working on the project

[Larpoux]

No @alexda12 , I never said that this project will be retired. I just said that if nobody work on a project, it will certainly die slowly.

It is same for all Open Source Projects. Everything depend on developers wanting to contribute to it. I am not the only one developer on earth. I have worked on Flutter Sound during two years. But I do not want to spend all the rest of my life on this project.

Recently Flutter Sound was forked to two branches :

• Flutter Sound 8.x (MPL license)
• Tau Sound 9.0 (GPL license)

For myself, I prefer not to work anymore on a MPL project. But of course other developers can do that: I will continue to merge Pull Requests if any, for sure. I will continue to work on Tau Sound 9.0, but not full time anymore. I want also to work on other projects, also. But other developers are welcome to work on Tau 9.0. @Alvarocda for example is currently working on a rewrite of this f...ing UI Widgets. We really need other developers.

[alexda12]

@Larpoux @mkassir95 Ok, maybe I misunderstood what was written here where it states you have decided to terminate Tau 9.x in a few weeks

but I agree - there is no point working on a MPL project as your simply wasting your time - If I take on TAU development , will I have complete autonomy to do what I like ? (I dont like the idea of bundling all of the codecs with the full version of the plugin and also forcing the things you have done with the manifest re: background audio service)

I had stopped working on Tau for several weeks. But I just decide now to try to terminate Tau 9.0. Probably in a few weeks ...

But it is very important that other developers will work on Tau soon. I will not be available for tau in the long run.

[Larpoux]

My english is really bad. I am sorry. I was trying to say that Tau 9.0 has been actually in a beta state for a long time. Too long ! I really want to release it (specially the API documentation, which is a hard job for me). So I write that I need to terminate the release of 9.0. I did not want to say that I will terminate completely working on Tau

But we really want other contributors. I cannot do everything. Actually I am stuck with hardware problems.

[Larpoux]

I dont like the idea of bundling all of the codecs with the full version of the plugin and also forcing the things you have done with the manifest re: background audio service

Yes, I agree with you and with @sallypeters : better to handle audio service with another plugin (like justAudioService). Actually I have not yet decided if I will completely remove the code from Tau, or only in the LITE flavor. I must look to justAudioService to see if it is not too much complicate to use it for a casual developer.

[alexda12]

I have looked at justAudioService the documentation is very detailed and there are full examples that work seamlessly. The API is very straightforward even for novice developers so I think since all of the heavy lifting has already been done with this self contained plugin , we should remove the service-based code in Flutter Sound (Or maybe we should move forward with TAU 10.x now ?) I think it doesnt make sense to maintain all of the sound plugins , i.e FS, FSL, TAU - there are just far too many codebases and especially when you also factor in different licences GPL, MPL etc

I think in view of the amount of work that you personally have done on this project it would be a pity to let this project die ...

What help do you need to get the TAU 9.0 release out ?

[Larpoux]

Hi, @alexda12 ,

I think in view of the amount of work that you personally have done on this project it would be a pity to let this project die ...

When I read this, it makes me feel good. This is much more positive than saying that we must running away elsewhere because this project is discontinued. My problem is that I feel very lonely when I work on τ. Everybody want improvements and fixes but nobody help. And I am never sure that my work is useful. And sometime I am completely discouraged and I cannot see a computer without wanting to vomit.

What help do you need to get the TAU 9.0 release out ?

There are not many things to do. The most important thing is to write the new API documentation. I am probably the only person who can do that.

I want also to write a page explaining how to use justAudioService inside a τ App. And write a small example. Your feedback on using this plugin is very interesting. I like very much the idea to remove everything about Now Playing. For a stupid reason : the code to support Audio Service inside τ has been written by @salvatore373 . But he does not maintain his code, and I have never spent time to master this part of Flutter Sound.

There is one thing where someone can be very helpful : @Alvarocda rewrote the τ UI Widgets. But he has not enough time to finish the documentation, the examples, and the tests. Someone should review his code, and give him feedback.

[alexda12]

@Larpoux Sorry for the delay in getting back to you , I was ill with Covid but now recovered ...

Regarding :

I want also to write a page explaining how to use justAudioService inside a τ App. And write a small example. Your feedback on using this plugin is very interesting. I like very much the idea to remove everything about Now Playing. For a stupid reason : the code to support Audio Service inside τ has been written by @salvatore373 . But he does not maintain his code, and I have never spent time to master this part of Flutter Sound.

I have implemented The Audio Service but since Flutter Sound also has a service we obviously get issues and the app gets terminated (You need to remove your audio service bindings so TAU/Flutter sound coexists with Just Audio's Service) .

I can take ownership of creating a sample app with Flutter Sound (Or TAU if you prefer to use that instead) and Audio Service if you like and also write a page documenting this so we can add it to your support page ... Let me know if this will help bring back some life into Flutter Sound/TAU.

Finally - since you took over Flutter Sound, an incredible amount of work has been done on your part - I think we should continue with this project , so lets decide the direction and what is achievable for 2022 and then set a roadmap so existing/new users can see what the plans are and hence there will be more excitement/enthusiasm with this project.

[Larpoux]

Hi @alexda12 , I am sorry to hear that you got this terrible virus. Myself I very often have some health problems : I fall in a great depression and cannot see a computer without wanting to vomit. When I was young (50 years ago!) I was certain that I could do everything by myself, and did not accept to use code from someone else. But now I am old, and I am not happy to code alone. There are two kinds of free project :

• Some project are done by a single developer. Some of them are true genius.
• Other projects are done by a community working together

I prefer the later, now. I am not a genius and I have many things to learn from other developers. And I think that a very important force with Open Source come from many developers each doing just simple things. The number of developers is important.

Now, I am going to re-start working on τ. I was not sure to want continue working on this project alone during 2022 year. But when I read your mail I feel much stronger.

can take ownership of creating a sample app with Flutter Sound (Or TAU if you prefer to use that instead) and Audio Service if you like and also write a page documenting this so we can add it to your support page ... Let me know if this will help bring back some life into Flutter Sound/TAU.

OH, YES. IT WILL DEFINITELY HELP BRING BACK SOME LIFE INTO τ

By the way, what do you think better : remove the audio service both on the LITE and FULL flavor, or just in the LITE flavor ? My current thinking is that if it is easy to use Just Audio Service, then better to remove the audio-service everywhere. It will simplify the API, the documentation, the code, and certainly remove some bugs.

Perhaps we can continue talking together on Discord

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