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Open daniell0999 opened this issue 1 year ago • 2 comments

It isnt really an issue, but some programms only work with the new libary and some only with the old. Is it possible that you make a libary for that combines the old and the new?

daniell0999 avatar Mar 30 '24 21:03 daniell0999

No, but also that shouldn't happen in the first place (libs are made to be compatible), and might indicate an issue with the programs themselves, or how they were made.

Which are the programs in question?

adriweb avatar Mar 30 '24 21:03 adriweb

Just some games from cemetech. When i try to Launch Games that only work in the new Release on the old Version they crash my calculator and it restarts with RAM cleared. And Vice versa

daniell0999 avatar Mar 30 '24 21:03 daniell0999

Can you say which games exactly?

adriweb avatar Sep 29 '24 08:09 adriweb

All Games, it doesnt even get recognized

Adrien Bertrand @.***> schrieb am So., 29. Sept. 2024, 10:16:

Can you say which games exactly?

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daniell0999 avatar Sep 29 '24 08:09 daniell0999

That doesn't make sense. You're saying some games crash. So first they'd have to be recognized for you to be able to launch them and see them crash. So, which ones?

adriweb avatar Sep 29 '24 08:09 adriweb

(Most importantly, we'd be interested in knowing which ones need old libraries specifically so that we could attempt fixing them as they must be doing something wrong)

adriweb avatar Sep 29 '24 08:09 adriweb

Sorry wrong conversation, yeah it only Happens with some Programms. I cant really Take names since its been half a year already

Adrien Bertrand @.***> schrieb am So., 29. Sept. 2024, 10:30:

That doesn't make sense. You're saying some games crash. So first they'd have to be recognized for you to be able to launch them and see them crash. So, which ones?

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daniell0999 avatar Sep 29 '24 08:09 daniell0999

Ok well if you find out about one, let us know here

adriweb avatar Sep 29 '24 08:09 adriweb

But you can try yourself, Just Download a few Games of cemetech and you will get the Same issue

daniell0999 avatar Sep 29 '24 08:09 daniell0999

I mean we regularly test dozens of programs/games. And there's more than 450k downloads of the clibs total, so it must not be a very common issue otherwise more people would complain.

We've seen like two or three things that were made in ICE that did crash because the ice code was doing something wrong and this isn't really fixable at this point, but it wasn't even a game iirc

adriweb avatar Sep 29 '24 08:09 adriweb

Ima send a Video soon

Adrien Bertrand @.***> schrieb am So., 29. Sept. 2024, 10:38:

I mean we regularly test dozens of programs/games. And there's more than 450k downloads of the clibs total, so it must not be a very common issue otherwise more people would complain.

We've seen like two or three things that were made in ICE that did crash because the ice code was doing something wrong and this isn't really fixable at this point, but it wasn't even a game iirc

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daniell0999 avatar Sep 29 '24 08:09 daniell0999

https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/e8984f8d-0a5e-43fc-b59b-5c4445e2ee51 This what Happens when i Run it in a newer Version, it works fine on older

daniell0999 avatar Sep 29 '24 08:09 daniell0999

Ok so this file https://www.cemetech.net/downloads/files/1598/x1598 maybe @mateoconlechuga can identify which part is triggering a crash. But anyway this is some 7-year old thing without the source code (?), so I'm not too hopeful, if the author isn't around here anymore.

adriweb avatar Sep 29 '24 09:09 adriweb

Yeah, also Like marianas trench, Game, it Just also Crashes, and a Lot more, ima Just too lazy to search again Just of my memory from half a year ago

Adrien Bertrand @.***> schrieb am So., 29. Sept. 2024, 11:07:

Ok so this file https://www.cemetech.net/downloads/files/1598/x1598 maybe @mateoconlechuga https://github.com/mateoconlechuga can identify which part is triggering a crash. But anyway this is some 7-year old thing without the source code (?), so I'm not too hopeful, if the author isn't around here anymore.

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daniell0999 avatar Sep 29 '24 09:09 daniell0999

Ok so https://www.cemetech.net/downloads/files/1611/x1611 . Same author, same time-frame.... and both using some (probably too old) version of ICE that makes it crash. So this was indeed identified some time ago, but nothing we can really do about it. The author of ICE isn't active anymore :(

adriweb avatar Sep 29 '24 09:09 adriweb

Wait ist it the Same Autor of SAMM? Cause that Crashes too

Adrien Bertrand @.***> schrieb am So., 29. Sept. 2024, 11:14:

Ok so https://www.cemetech.net/downloads/files/1611/x1611 . Same author, same time-frame.... and both using some (probably too old) version of ICE that makes it crash. So this was indeed identified some time ago, but nothing we can really do about it. The author of ICE isn't active anymore :(

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daniell0999 avatar Sep 29 '24 09:09 daniell0999

SAMM... is actually launching correctly, but crashing when starting a new game or something? So, might not even be related to the libraries (I've tested some old lib versions too and they appear to crash similarly)

However, the author is still around! I've asked here: https://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=308676#308676

adriweb avatar Sep 29 '24 09:09 adriweb

So is it Just an authors Problem?

Adrien Bertrand @.***> schrieb am So., 29. Sept. 2024, 11:31:

SAMM... is actually launching correctly, but crashing when starting a new game or something? So, might not even be related to the libraries (I've tested some old lib versions too and they appear to crash similarly)

However, the author is still around! I've asked here: https://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=308676#308676

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daniell0999 avatar Sep 29 '24 09:09 daniell0999

Probably a coding mistake on their end, yes. With a bit of luck, it should be easy enough to fix in a new version. I've also pinged them on Discord, so, we'll see.

adriweb avatar Sep 29 '24 09:09 adriweb