Blender (for both 32-bit & 64-bit)

[fabianmendes]

Hi. [App request]

Botspot, I've made the scrip but I think you may take a look forward into it, because I'm not sure if everything is right, also, it seems to be better on changing the Icon. Here is the zip file: blender_2.79b.zip

[Botspot]

Isn't Blender already installable via apt-get?

Pi-Apps currently only allows software that's not on the apt repositories.

[Itai-Nelken]

The newest version of blender is 2.91.0, and the version on apt and the version this script installs are 2.79, so if the script would install the newer version, it would be nice to have it on pi-apps because some programs that use blender need the newer version, but I'm not sure it's necesary.

[fabianmendes]

No, The newest versions doesnt work on raspberry pi, I've tried all them. The only one versión that works properly is this one. Thats why

[Botspot]

Mmm, ok. Yes, I do allow newer versions of stuff to be added to Pi-Apps, as long as the newer version is actually something a majority of users would prefer.

I'll take a look.

[Itai-Nelken]

I'm trying to build the newer version of blender on the pi. I'm pretty sure it won't work with the instructions they provide, but still worth trying.

[Botspot]

@fabianmendes In the uninstall script, you should not add anything to the purge-installed command.

"${DIRECTORY}/purge-installed" "blender-data" "$(dirname "$0")" || exit 1

It doesn't work that way.
Purge-installed remembers what Blender installed with pkg-install, and automatically removes those packages.

[Itai-Nelken]

I'm trying to build the newer version of blender on the pi. I'm pretty sure it won't work with the instructions they provide, but still worth trying.

Doesn't work

[Itai-Nelken]

No, The newest versions doesnt work on raspberry pi, I've tried all them. The only one versión that works properly is this one. Thats why

The version your scripts installs is the same available from apt

[Botspot]

Yeah APT can already install 2.79 from the repos. So adding a 2.79 version to Pi-Apps is pointless.

@fabianmendes If you find a way to get a later version of Blender going, then Pi-Apps could host it.

[fabianmendes]

Yeah APT can already install 2.79 from the repos. So adding a 2.79 version to Pi-Apps is pointless.

@fabianmendes If you find a way to get a later version of Blender going, then Pi-Apps could host it.

Cool, right. I didn't know. Ok, all right!

[ThaPg]

When i tried to install Blender using command line sudo apt install blender the downloaded version was 2.83.5 (2.83.5+dfsg-5). This version is not working on Raspberry PI 4 with 4GB RAM. As @Botspot mentioned in https://github.com/Botspot/pi-apps/issues/288, the latest available blender version for RPi4 is 2.79b due to OpenGL nonsupport for the processor.

I downloaded the .zip file from @fabianmendes but the script is not working. After unzipped the file, the execution is closing and can't continue.

If someone try to find the solution, maybe will be good for the community members with Raspberry Pi 4.

[Botspot]

@ThaPg, you're right! Looks like the upgrade to Bullseye broke Blender.

Once we work out how to get it running, I'd expect this to be added to Pi-Apps. For now, see: https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?p=1942999

[theofficialgman]

has anyone tried to override the mesa reported opengl version and use blender 2.83? the rpi v3d opengl drivers support a lot of the featureset of opengl up to 4.3, its possible that the right extensions are implemented and blender could run

MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender

[Botspot]

has anyone tried to override the mesa reported opengl version and use blender 2.83? the rpi v3d opengl drivers support a lot of the featureset of opengl up to 4.3, its possible that the right extensions are implemented and blender could run

MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender

I just uninstalled blender and closed the terminal, but from what I remembered, blender said it needed OpenGL 3.3. So I set the override variable to 3.3. Blender briefly launched, but then crashed. The terminal simply said "Bus error".

[theofficialgman]

the blender website (right now) says 4.3 is required, I'm not aware which exact extentions they are using but it might be interesting to still check. I somehow doubt the bus error is coming from something lacking from opengl though...

either way, blender 3.X WILL be using vulkan and metal only, no opengl at all, by sometime in later 2022 so this issue is only temporary until that version is released

[cycool29]

MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender

This works for me.

[theofficialgman]

@cycool29 I'm not a blender user, but could you trying doing a few things in the software and see if anything crashes (due to missing opengl features)

[Botspot]

MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender

This works for me.

4.3 doesn't work for me. I wonder what the difference is.

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender
Warning: Could not find a matching GPU name. Things may not behave as expected.
Detected OpenGL configuration:
Vendor: Broadcom
Renderer: V3D 4.2
Bus error

[cycool29]

@cycool29 I'm not a blender user

Nor do I.

[cycool29]

4.3 doesn't work for me. I wonder what the difference is.

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender
Warning: Could not find a matching GPU name. Things may not behave as expected.
Detected OpenGL configuration:
Vendor: Broadcom
Renderer: V3D 4.2
Bus error

Weird. Even MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.3 blender works for me.

[Botspot]

Weird. Even MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.3 blender works for me.

What's the full output on your system?

[cycool29]

What's the full output on your system?

pi@raspberrypi:~ MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.3 blender
Warning: Could not find a matching GPU name. Things may not behave as expected.
Detected OpenGL configuration:
Vendor: Broadcom
Renderer: V3D 4.2

[Botspot]

I guess if someone wants to make this a pi-app, we can try to automate this tutorial for installing Buster-Blender on bullseye. https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?p=1942999

[theofficialgman]

I guess if someone wants to make this a pi-app, we can try to automate this tutorial for installing Buster-Blender on bullseye. https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?p=1942999

I very much would not approve of the process in that thread for the same reasons mentioned there it would be better to have an appimage/flatpak/snap of blender 2.79 with all of those libraries contained rather than doing them systemwide and risking breaking other stuff

[ThaPg]

Thank you very much for your replies. Could someone tell me the command to see my MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE. It's from command glxinfo? Later, maybe I'll install again the rasbian and i'll try to install vulkan drivers (in a "clean" machine) and then the blender again using tutorials (https://qengineering.eu/install-vulkan-on-raspberry-pi.html and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5mh-joIFJ4&ab_channel=JoseCerrejon). (sorry if it's forbidden to add links)

@theofficialgman thanks for reply about future drivers for blender and vulkan.

[ThaPg]

Hi again. I installed again "blender". Then I copied MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender and blender was started. But it doesn't begin from icon. It begins only if i write the previous command in terminal. A little bit strange!! My system output is:

MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.6 blender Read prefs: /home/pi/.config/blender/2.83/config/userpref.blend Warning: Could not find a matching GPU name. Things may not behave as expected. Detected OpenGL configuration: Vendor: Broadcom Renderer: V3D 4.2

[Botspot]

Hallo again. I installed again "blender". Then I copied MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender and blender was started. But it doesn't begin from icon. It begins only if i write the previous command in terminal. A little bit strange!!

Yes, running from the menu won't apply that override. You can edit the menu launcher though.

[ThaPg]

I update my answer with terminal print. Thanks for the fast response.

[ThaPg]

I don't know if it is possible, but someone could make a script following next steps (I think I can write script the first two steps):

1. Download and install blender
2. Download and install mesa-utils
3. Make blender starts using MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender

That's my thoughts. I don't know if you agree or disagree with my thoughts. I don't know also if mesa-utils will make problem with other programms.

Also, I downloaded PiKiss, I installed Vulkan and I didn't see any changes in glxinfo, maybe because I have already installed mesa-utils.

[theofficialgman]

@ThaPg glxinfo will NEVER show any vulkan info, its an opengl info viewer, thats it

could you please test out some of the blender functionality to make sure it doesn't crash on the PI? I'm not confident using MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender will actually make all the software work.

[ThaPg]

Ooops yeah @theofficialgman . My fault. I'm sorry.

I'll try to run blender for some days and in different situations. I'll give feedback here.

[fabianmendes]

When i tried to install Blender using command line sudo apt install blender the downloaded version was 2.83.5 (2.83.5+dfsg-5). This version is not working on Raspberry PI 4 with 4GB RAM. As @Botspot mentioned in #288, the latest available blender version for RPi4 is 2.79b due to OpenGL nonsupport for the processor.

I downloaded the .zip file from @fabianmendes but the script is not working. After unzipped the file, the execution is closing and can't continue.

If someone try to find the solution, maybe will be good for the community members with Raspberry Pi 4.

Hi, what output or error did it come after ttrying to install?

Folks, let me check the donwloading links, I think the only stuff we need are the blender-data and the .deb blender 2.79 for debian file and that's it. (EDIT: this download works https://download.blender.org/release/Blender2.79/blender-2.79b-linux-glibc219-i686.tar.bz2 ..so, please let me know what happens once you try to install it or open it on your system! Hint: run or try to open blender from terminal to see what it says there in case you could intalled and just it doesn't allow you to open it to use properly)

I am not sure what is the case of @cycool29 I am using blender without any update since the time I've installed it.

[fabianmendes]

Mhm, I saw the error: (I've "installed" gdebi, but written as comment)

Here's again the script. And using pkg-install Blender.zip Please try this. It's only for 32-bit, also It doesn't have a description nor how to run instructions as a pi-app introduction. And I didn't make its Desktop entry.

[theofficialgman]

Here's again the script. And using pkg-install

@fabianmendes pkg-install is legacy support only as of over 2 months ago, do not use it, the pi-apps documentation needs updating install_packages is the new format, look at any other pi-apps script for reference for how to use it

[fabianmendes]

Here's again the script. And using pkg-install

@fabianmendes pkg-install is legacy support only as of over 2 months ago, do not use it, the pi-apps documentation needs updating install_packages is the new format, look at any other pi-apps script for reference for how to use it

oh alright! Thaanks

Otherwise, did the script work?

[cycool29]

Otherwise, did the script work?

No, the binary is in i686 and box86 shows these error when launching:

Box86 with Dynarec v0.2.5 b903e57e built on Jan 16 2022 00:07:22
Error: Global Symbol __RML_open_factory not found, cannot apply R_386_GLOB_DAT @0xfd4a690 ((nil)) in ./blender
Error: Global Symbol __TBB_make_rml_server not found, cannot apply R_386_GLOB_DAT @0xfd4a694 ((nil)) in ./blender
Error: Global Symbol __RML_close_factory not found, cannot apply R_386_GLOB_DAT @0xfd4a698 ((nil)) in ./blender
Error: Global Symbol __TBB_call_with_my_server_info not found, cannot apply R_386_GLOB_DAT @0xfd4a69c ((nil)) in ./blender

[fabianmendes]

Why is Box86 making excuses? I mean, I don't understand that log.

El mar, 18 ene 2022 a las 9:28, cycool29 @.***>) escribió:

Otherwise, did the script work?

No, the binary is in i686 and box86 shows these error when launching:

Box86 with Dynarec v0.2.5 b903e57e built on Jan 16 2022 00:07:22 Error: Global Symbol __RML_open_factory not found, cannot apply R_386_GLOB_DAT @0xfd4a690 ((nil)) in ./blender Error: Global Symbol __TBB_make_rml_server not found, cannot apply R_386_GLOB_DAT @0xfd4a694 ((nil)) in ./blender Error: Global Symbol __RML_close_factory not found, cannot apply R_386_GLOB_DAT @0xfd4a698 ((nil)) in ./blender Error: Global Symbol __TBB_call_with_my_server_info not found, cannot apply R_386_GLOB_DAT @0xfd4a69c ((nil)) in ./blender

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[theofficialgman]

also @fabianmendes , I don't think anyone really wants to use blender through box86, its an open source package and it can be made to build/install on armhf/arm64 I responded to you initially with just reading your script and didn't realize you had commented on the blender issue topic, I would have suggested you stop developing your script if it had registered that this was for blender

[theofficialgman]

@Botspot please try blender again with this and tell the output:

MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender --debug-all

[fabianmendes]

also @fabianmendes , I don't think anyone really wants to use blender through box86, its an open source package and it can be made to build/install on armhf/arm64 I responded to you initially with just reading your script and didn't realize you had commented on the blender issue topic, I would have suggested you stop developing your script if it had registered that this was for blender

I didn't get this comment/reply. And you're right, I don't know why Box86 came out... I don't use Box86 for that, I just had surprised me! There is no reason to use Box86 to run Blender at all!!

[Botspot]

@Botspot please try blender again with this and tell the output:

MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender --debug-all

Great. Now it worked. I think it's working now because I'm temporarily using the armhf kernel, rather than the 64-bit kernel that I usually use. Can someone verify this?

[everypizza1]

Blender does not work with MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender --debug-all. When I click on View port Shading, the app just freezes.

[ThaPg]

Sorry for being late to my answer. I tried to MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3 blender sometimes. Unfortunately, as @theofficialgman told, I had problems to run some blender applications. Also I have the same problem when i use Cura (3d slicer). All problems are coming from graphic issues.

After some minutes the video editor crashed. The same I had with the sculpture menu.

[theofficialgman]

I just wanted to add, this is the issue tracking vulkan support in blender: https://developer.blender.org/T68990

it may not work on the raspberry pi though, I am not sure if the pi support the necessary vulkan extensions they plan to use or not