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Rondo Alla Turca reading issue

Open Petron84 opened this issue 4 months ago • 3 comments

Hello, I am using Audiveris for translation of pdf to musicXML (or mxl in this case of outputs), and I'm trying to transcribe Rondo Alla Turca by Mozart. The result was some notes are not readable by the program (I guess it is because the database of this program is not sufficient). Here are the screenshots of where the reading issue occurs regularly:

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I noticed this kind of triplets are not readable by the program. Can this issue be solved via more data training?

I also noticed that the program cannot read the tempo of the song if it is on the music sheet, here is the image:

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Petron84 avatar Sep 04 '25 21:09 Petron84

@Petron84

I found your message in my spam folder today! Sorry for the delay, but luckily I didn't delete the spam folder.

Regarding the small beamed notes, did you select the options "Small heads" and "Small beams" in the book parameters? If not, this might explain these results.

Regarding the tempo mark, it should be recognized. What is the Audiveris version? (because this is a rather recent feature).

Could you post your input image, so that I can reproduce and analyze the cases.

hbitteur avatar Sep 09 '25 15:09 hbitteur

I have been able to inspect your score.

First, perhaps the time signature should be Common (4/4) rather than CommontCut (2/2), not sure.

Then I can observe many cases as below, where the first two chords at the bottom of the lower staff are not considered as belonging to the same voice.

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To fix this manually, you have to select the two chords and, in the popup menu, select the "Next in voice" item.

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And voila!

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Almost all measures exhibit this configuration. I don't immediately understand why the engine missed that. I suspect this is related to the half-rest located just above the first chord.

I'll need to investigate.

hbitteur avatar Sep 10 '25 17:09 hbitteur

Sorry for the late reply! But if you need the correct pdf file to have a better look into things, here is the Rondo Alla Turca PDF:

https://ia801607.us.archive.org/19/items/RondoAllaTurca_201401/Rondo_Alla_Turca.pdf

About the Audiveris version, it is the latest version (5.6.2) as well

Petron84 avatar Sep 13 '25 20:09 Petron84