Backticks still dont work on macOS

[tatecapone]

macOS 11.3 CudaText 1.124

[Alexey-T]

It will be good if you download this Lazarus program https://scootersoftware.com/download.php and repro the bug there too. Scooter-software have good experience in Lazarus and they can make the lazarus fix if needed. @tatecapone

[Alexey-T]

@tatecapone I got reply from ScooterSoftware quote: I just checked BC and Lazarus on macOS 11 and both typed a back tick successfully. .... Check if your end user’s keyboard layout makes a difference. Launching from the command line vs double clicking the app icon might affect things too, since the environment will be different.

[Alexey-T]

@tatecapone Pls read https://www.scootersoftware.com/vbulletin/forum/beyond-compare-4-discussion/mac/85470-typing-backtick-char-on-macos-big-sur?p=85491#post85491

seems, it's local PC issue.

[Alexey-T]

@jairomartinezA , do you confirm this issue on your macOS setup?

[JairoMartinezA]

Yes, that happens.

[Alexey-T]

@skalogryz , sorry that I disturb you, but do you know reason for this issue? - in custom controls like SynEdit and my ATSynEdit.

[veksha]

are you talking about these backticks, guys?

[JairoMartinezA]

In my case, neither kind of accents works.

[veksha]

oh, you mean this?

Option + ` + letter = grave accent à, è, ì, ò, or ù (like this: Voilà)
Option + i + letter = circumflex accent â, ê, î, ô, or û (like this: Crêpe)

or this method:

[JairoMartinezA]

Yes, with CudaText I cannot get accent marks.

[Alexey-T]

Here is simplest demo to test backticks (I don't have Mac for the next 2 weeks)

• Lazarus src tst-backtick-input.zip
• compiled Mac x64 app app.app.zip

backticks still not entered? @veksha @jairomartinezA

[JairoMartinezA]

No, I cannot enter backticks with this project:

[Alexey-T]

Thanks for test.

[veksha]

It seems that only with US International PC keyboard one can use easy method of typing accented letters:

1. type backtick (it will be yellow)

2. type letter

with other keyboards layouts (ABC or US) user must use two methods i mentioned above (https://github.com/Alexey-T/CudaText/issues/3158#issuecomment-1198645308)

this is all works in all other applications (Notes, or Terminal, etc.. even in Sublime), but none of methods are working in CudaText. this was just not implemented, I think.

PS: using US International PC keyboard layout backticks are not even appearing in CudaText or test app. you can't enter them. with other keyboard layouts you can enter them at least.

[JairoMartinezA]

In my case:

I cannot get this in CudaText, the next chars were typed inside this GitHub comment, here works but in CudaText the chars appear without accents:

àáèé

[veksha]

regular SynEdit lacks this too, i'm afraid.

[Alexey-T]

Of course SynEdit lacks it - if it's so in primitive demo

[veksha]

but very primitive edit box has support for typing accents.

[Alexey-T]

edit box is OS-based. not 'primitive' al all !

[veksha]

SublimeText also has this facility: Preferences > Key Bindings, add the following code to the file that opens Default (Linux).sublime-keymap:

[
	{ "keys": ["`","a"], "command": "insert", "args": {"characters": "à"}},
]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27703981/cant-type-accented-characters-in-sublime-text-3-ubuntu-14-10

[Alexey-T]

wait, the problem is that I cannot enter backtick char? or that I cannot enter ACCENTED chars? we have only second or both? backtick-keyboard-button exists on Macs, does it work? https://cdn.mobilesyrup.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/MacBook-Pro-Keyboard.jpg

[veksha]

1. entering backtick char can't be a problem of CudaText. it can be a problem of Keyboard Layout, I think. for example, i can enter backtick (in all apps) with "~" key while using ABC, U.S., U.S. International - PC, but not when switched to Spanish/Russian/etc..

in case of Spanish, for example, I can use only "Press and hold" method of inserting chars with accents. press "e" and hold:

I think the problem is that for CudaText no method is available. I know three methods:

1. type ` then the letter
2. Option + ` + letter
3. press and hold method.

first method works for me only when switched to U.S. International - PC layout. second method works only for ABC, U.S., U.S. International - PC third method seems to work no matter what layout you have.

none of these work in CudaText. but!! interestingly enough that with U.S. International - PC layout no char is entered in CudaText by pressing "~" key. in other apps it works. so this needs to be checked, I think. maybe it is what @tatecapone was walking about, maybe not.

PS: i have windows-type keyboard (eng/rus/ua), macOS Big Sur inside virtual machine.

[JairoMartinezA]

wait, the problem is that I cannot enter backtick char? or that I cannot enter ACCENTED chars? we have only second or both? backtick-keyboard-button exists on Macs, does it work? https://cdn.mobilesyrup.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/MacBook-Pro-Keyboard.jpg

In my case, I cannot get any ACCENTED chars. In SublimeText works as expected.

[JairoMartinezA]

Alex I think this issue can be closed too.

[Alexey-T]

Thanks for checking.