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[Question] Chromium telemetry?

Open GrabbenD opened this issue 2 years ago • 11 comments

I currently use Brave since I value performance and privacy. From my understanding Chromium project has embedded telemetry from Google and projects like Brave and Ungoogled-chromium removes those calls in their releases.

Is the default telemetry stripped in this fork of Chromium?

GrabbenD avatar Apr 14 '23 14:04 GrabbenD

I was wondering the same, does Thorium make calls to Google, even if you haven't logged on? If so, any way to disable that default behavior?

xplshn avatar Apr 16 '23 10:04 xplshn

I read that there is always a call to the Chrome Webstore on launch to see if there are updates. Not sure what is in that call and/or if it is disabled in Thorium.

jstdk avatar Apr 16 '23 12:04 jstdk

Yeah, also te check if login with oath using Google, so it syncs your browser. The suggestions on the search box, and the privacy sandbox thing, those are just a few.

xplshn avatar Apr 19 '23 22:04 xplshn

valid question to ask. @Alex313031 what kind of data is still being transmitted ? i know google pushes quickly a lot stuff which may fly under the radar. i dont find any references in the readme directly beside some privacy improving patches.

why is the Hangouts addon installed as being unable to be disabled? and what is the trade off, if existing?

guria9 avatar May 01 '23 01:05 guria9

brave did remove google telemetry but replaced it with their own https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave

kyundothost avatar Jun 26 '23 03:06 kyundothost

Great find @kyundothost I figured Brave was the lesser evil since they bragged about making less network requests vs browsers like Firefox back in 2019 https://brave.com/brave-tops-browser-first-run-network-traffic-results/

GrabbenD avatar Jun 26 '23 07:06 GrabbenD

There should be 0 requests made on startup. And 0 requests ever to Thorium/Google's servers. Except for when updating.

The Google Hangout extension should really be gone as it does have some kind of logging built-in: // A port for continuously reporting relevant CPU usage information to the page. This comment in the extension would make me think that it does have some logging through webrtc.

Alleop5 avatar Jun 26 '23 12:06 Alleop5

I recently switched from UGC to thorium because I neeeded a more recent chromium version. I understand that this project doesn't aim to be ungoogled, but it would be nice to have enough configuration flexibility to provide the option. The Webstore-Manager from UGC should work in Thorium as is, but the default Auto-Update would have to be disabled. If there is a reliance on auto-checks, such as sync or version updates, maybe having the option to switch to a manual trigger would work.

Thus taking the services one at a time. Requesting a flag-switch to turn this into UGC is unreasonable. Maybe eventually, there can be a pref-file shared to set the relevant options. But leaving those customizations to the user should not be asking to much.

ChaosNicro avatar Aug 24 '23 11:08 ChaosNicro

@gz83 @Alex313031 Any reason for closing this?

GrabbenD avatar Sep 02 '24 06:09 GrabbenD

This is a batch closing operation (can also be regarded as a ping), I will reopen the issues that still have new responses

gz83 avatar Sep 02 '24 06:09 gz83

@gz83 @GrabbenD There was a guy that posted a list of URLs that Thorium still pings to. Some of these are required for Sync and the Web Store, but there may still be some sort of telemetry also going on, so I could search in the source code for those URLs and look into disabling them.

However, while I hate telemetry and try to add patches to increase security, Thorium does not attempt to be a completely "De-Googled" browser.

Alex313031 avatar Sep 03 '24 07:09 Alex313031