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Get Excalibur II without 12h time limit

Open oxydoreduction opened this issue 8 years ago • 13 comments

Hi, Would it be possible to "remove" the time limit of 12 hours, to be able to get Excalibur II in any playthrough?

By the way your mod is really great, thanks. oxydoreduction

oxydoreduction avatar May 18 '16 15:05 oxydoreduction

Yes, this is possible, but you need to think about an alternative challenge.

Albeoris avatar May 18 '16 15:05 Albeoris

1st thing I thought was getting the "mini" collection (Branet, Cid, Burmecia, Prima Vista) but it's too easy.

Lvl 1 challenge could be interesting but it would be hard to check because EXP from the "you're not alone" part is mandatory (except if you mod something to stop getting EXP from these 3 mid-boss fights).

I'll keep thinking of other challenges.

oxydoreduction avatar May 18 '16 19:05 oxydoreduction

Would "getting one of each Tetra Master card" be a fair enough challenge to be able to get Excalibur II without the time limit?

oxydoreduction avatar Jun 19 '16 11:06 oxydoreduction

NB: I just checked my game file. I'm at the end of the game, I completed many sidequests, I got all the chocographs, and I only still have 55 different types of cards.

oxydoreduction avatar Jun 19 '16 11:06 oxydoreduction

Have one of each other weapons ? It would make sense, since Gilgamesh is the ultimate weapon collector.

arcanis avatar Jan 18 '17 21:01 arcanis

ooh I like that idea. But aren't some weapons only available by crafting two other weapons together? I'll make sure having one of each at the same time is possible.

oxydoreduction avatar Feb 20 '17 13:02 oxydoreduction

Hi Albeoris. Great job on this mod. Any update about this "no time limit for Excalibur II"? Arcanis' idea's pretty interesting imo. All the weapons seem to be obtainable once without sacrificing one for another; Save The Queen and Hammer excepted for obvious reasons. My "all the cards" idea would be a much tougher challenge but hey, if it's for Excalibur II, why not. Has any of these two ideas caught your interest? Would it be difficult to implement?

oxydoreduction avatar Sep 02 '17 17:09 oxydoreduction

At present it is really difficult to implement. But we will definitely do it.

Albeoris avatar Sep 02 '17 22:09 Albeoris

Awesome! Thanks for the update.

2017-09-03 0:36 GMT+02:00 Albeoris [email protected]:

At present it is really difficult to implement. But we will definitely do it.

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oxydoreduction avatar Sep 03 '17 10:09 oxydoreduction

How about an optional boss? Not as hard as Ozma, but definitely challenging.

GuyInDogSuit avatar Sep 05 '17 03:09 GuyInDogSuit

For anyone who might end up here while looking for methods to get E2 outside of the time limit.

This has little to do with the game engine, conditions are checked within the script of the specific field where you get the Item.

Hades Workshop can edit fields scripts and its author Tirilitti describes how to alter E2 conditions here: http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14315.msg248637#msg248637

Also, for what it's worth, in my own modded game i set the alternate condition for getting the E2 to having the Rank S Medal. So either reach that spot within 12h OR reach it at any time with Rank S Medal. Mostly for flavor, since the E2 shows a message from "Enkidu" to "Gil" and the only way to know who "Gil" is, is by getting Rank S Medal.

Caledor avatar May 24 '20 15:05 Caledor

Hi, I see this thread is still alive! Great to see updates. Thanks for the info Caledor. You're right, Rank S would be a pretty logical condition for getting Excalibur 2 without the time limit.

oxydoreduction avatar Jun 27 '20 11:06 oxydoreduction

Hi, I see this thread is still alive! Great to see updates. Thanks for the info Caledor. You're right, Rank S would be a pretty logical condition for getting Excalibur 2 without the time limit.

Alternate Fantasy does it this way. Otherwise you can remove the time restriction with this mod: PC_ExcaliburII.zip (You probably need to go for the HadesWorkshop route, because of other mods, etc.)

martin-braun avatar Nov 14 '21 13:11 martin-braun