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this test is 75% redundant and only measures the scale of conservative vs liberal

Open milahu opened this issue 4 years ago • 7 comments

redundancy is a problem with many tests, like MBTI or big-five

in my understanding, all the 8value questions only measure one single scale:

conservative politics liberal politics
sedentary culture, tribalism? nomadic culture
military government [fire] weak government [water]
weak citizens [earth] military citizens [air]
guns are privilege [fire] guns for all [air]
drugs are privilege [fire] drugs for all [air]
regional tourism global tourism
local self-sufficiency, grow your own, eat regional+seasonal food global trade, import exotic food from far away
anti migration pro migration
breed to stabilize one phenotype or "race", well-adapted to the local climate breed to hybridize, inter-racial breeding
stability variety
quality diversity
primitive culture, low risk, high quality high technology, high risk, high diversity
natural medicine synthetic medicine, genetic engineering, transhumanism
traditional education [earth] progressive education [air]
minority vote [fire] majority vote [air]
majority makes poor decisions [earth] minority makes poor decisions [water]
accumulate wealth, save money distribute wealth, spend money
sexual monogamy [fire] sexual liberty, bisexual [air]
mesomorph endomorph + ectomorph = extramorph
many strong small states few weak large states
competition of states union of states
two class society, local order classless society, local chaos
religious, monotheism, one god [fire] atheist, polytheism, many gods [air]
low tax high tax, eat the rich
private schools public schools
private insurance public insurance
exchange economy, market gift economy, steal and donate
some humans are better all humans are equal
some cultures are better all cultures are equal
practical rational [carl jung]
concrete abstract [david keirsey]
cycloThymia schizoThymia [Ernst Kretschmer]
vagotonia sympatheticotonia
rest + digest fight + flight
depressed manic

in terms of Milton Rokeach and the classical four elements and Hans Eysenck two-factor terminology (extraversion + psychoticism)

conservative politics liberal politics
communism + capitalism socialism + nazism
fire + earth air + water
satan + belial lucifer + leviathan
equality-authority + difference-freedom equality-freedom + difference-authority
extravert-psychotic + introvert-neurotic extravert-neurotic + introvert-psychotic
young-masculine + old-feminine young-feminine + old-masculine
son + mother daughter + father
matriarchy [earth = mother] patriarchy [water = father]

in a two-factor-model with the two orthogonal factors equality and freedom, the two conservative types [fire + earth] share the same diagonal, and the two liberal types [air + water] share the other diagonal.

x young old
masculine fire water
feminine air earth

in theory, there are five types of questions, five scales to measure:

  1. conservative vs liberal = fire+earth vs air+water = diagonal, angle
  2. inner age = young vs old = fire+air vs earth+water
  3. inner gender = feminine vs masculine = earth+air vs fire+water
  4. fire-ness = fire vs air+water vs earth, could be called "dominance"
  5. air-ness = william sheldon scale = endo vs meso vs ecto, could be called "optimism"

the current 8values test pretends to give four scales, but really gives just one scale.

edit - related to issue #69

milahu avatar Jun 18 '20 14:06 milahu