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Part Number (for journalArticle)

Open rmzelle opened this issue 14 years ago • 18 comments
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A new field, "Part Number"/partNumber, should be added to journalArticle, and mapped to number in CSL.

https://www.zotero.org/trac/ticket/1368

rmzelle avatar Jan 18 '11 20:01 rmzelle

Wouldn't part number be more like a section (number)? The generic "number" is really intended as a document number.

bdarcus avatar Jan 18 '11 20:01 bdarcus

I was indeed wondering if this could be merged with ajlyon/zotero-bits#5. The downside of using CSL's section variable for part numbers is that section isn't available through cs:number, so you couldn't do any number reformatting.

rmzelle avatar Jan 18 '11 20:01 rmzelle

The upside of treating it as section is that we could then support named sections; serialized monographs or essays appearing in older journals don't always provide a section number, but they do say "Continuation" or something of the sort. (As usual, I'm referring to Russian practice.) I'm not quite sure how the name of the section is supposed to be formatted in citations, since citations usually refer to the entire work, but this might be an argument for allowing non-numeric data in the field (and variable).

avram avatar Feb 07 '11 06:02 avram

As I was the one who requested a "section" field, I should add that I had in mind a non-numeric data.

(If non-numeric data is not an issue, then I think that partNumber is not necessary: "Section"/section can do the job.)

gracile-fr avatar Feb 16 '11 09:02 gracile-fr

Humm, sorry, I think that "Part Number" has to be distinguished from "Section". I can easily imagine a citation case where both section and part number are needed.

-Mustapha Mekki,« L‘influence normative des groupes d‘intérêt : force vive ou force subversive ? », 1re partie, JCP G, 2009, n°43, I, 370.

-Mustapha Mekki,« L‘influence normative des groupes d‘intérêt : force vive ou force subversive ? », 2nde partie, JCP G, 2009, n°44, I, 392.

"I, 370" and "I, 392" are sections. "1re partie" and "2nde partie" are parts numbers.

gracile-fr avatar Feb 16 '11 11:02 gracile-fr

In that case we'd need a different CSL mapping. Any suggestions?

avram avatar Feb 17 '11 05:02 avram

I think a case can be made for introducing a dedicated CSL variable, e.g. part-number.

rmzelle avatar Feb 17 '11 14:02 rmzelle

@adam3smith, do you know if CMoS says anything about articles published in parts?

(I encountered this in my own writing, but I was able to just add the part number and subtitle to the "title" field:

Malic acid accumulation by Aspergillus flavus. I. Biochemical aspects of acid biosynthesis (https://doi.org/10.1007/BF00250501) Malic acid accumulation by Aspergillus flavus. II. Crystals and hair-like processes formed by A. flavus in a l-malic acid production medium (https://doi.org/10.1007/BF00250502) Malic acid accumulation by Aspergillus flavus. III. 13C NMR and isoenzyme analyses (https://doi.org/10.1007/BF00264008) )

rmzelle avatar Feb 12 '17 06:02 rmzelle

Yes. 14.189, here in its entirety (italics ommitted):

Articles published in parts over two or more issues may be listed separately or in the same entry, depending on whether the part or the whole is cited.

68. George C. Brown, ed., “A Swedish Traveler in Early Wisconsin: The Observations of Fredrika Bremer,” pt. 1, Wisconsin Magazine of History 61 (Summer 1978): 312.
69. Ibid., pt. 2, Wisconsin Magazine of History 62 (Autumn 1978): 50.

Brown, George C., ed. “A Swedish Traveler in Early Wisconsin: The Observations of Fredrika Bremer.” Pts. 1 and 2. Wisconsin Magazine of History 61 (Summer 1978): 300–318; 62 (Autumn 1978): 41–56.

adam3smith avatar Feb 12 '17 16:02 adam3smith

Great, thanks. @adam3smith, do you also agree that we'll probably want to treat this information separately from "section", per above at https://github.com/citation-style-language/zotero-bits/issues/12#issuecomment-777628, and that we'll need a new CSL variable (e.g. "part-number" or just "part")?

rmzelle avatar Feb 12 '17 17:02 rmzelle

I agree it needs to be separate from section, yes (section is information about the container, part refers to the article; also see Gracile's example above). I do think it's a bit unfortunate to include these two variables just for two relatively rare cases, though. Can we think of any way in which they can cover something broader?

adam3smith avatar Feb 12 '17 18:02 adam3smith

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:04 AM, Sebastian Karcher <[email protected]

wrote:

I agree it needs to be separate from section, yes (section is information about the container, part refers to the article; also see Gracile's example above). I do think it's a bit unfortunate to include these two variables just for two relatively rare cases, though.

IIRC the Zotero variables "series" and "seriesTitle" are meant to have different meanings (I forget which is which - one is a series enclosing the container?, the other a series across container volumes?). It think they both map to collection-title at the moment. If a new part-number is cast, should a companion *-title also be cast, and associated with series (or seriesTitle)?

Can we think of any way in which they can cover something broader?

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fbennett avatar Feb 13 '17 06:02 fbennett

@fbennett : https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/comment/94959/#Comment_94959 (meaning of "series", "seriesTitle", "seriesText"). See also #21

gracile-fr avatar Feb 13 '17 10:02 gracile-fr

Is the consensus that both part-number and part-title be created?

bwiernik avatar Jul 08 '18 16:07 bwiernik

That's accepted, right? Would be also nice to have this for encyclopedia articles.

denismaier avatar Apr 20 '20 14:04 denismaier

Adding zotero tag because this will be covered by https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/issues/179

bwiernik avatar May 26 '20 17:05 bwiernik

Sorry, where did we land with this? partNumber and partTitle for journalArticle, mapped to CSL part-number and part-title?

dstillman avatar Aug 22 '21 23:08 dstillman

That's correct.

The CSL 1.0.2 variables are listed here if that is helpful https://github.com/citation-style-language/documentation/blob/master/specification.rst

I can also take a look at a changelist

bwiernik avatar Aug 22 '21 23:08 bwiernik