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More advanced probing plugin
Most of the features in this video should not be complicated to implement: https://youtu.be/pQGnV85Cu_A?t=191
I'll probably go ahead and make a bunch of screens that go over the visualizer for these:
- [x] Corner probing (outside XY / outside XYZ)
- [ ] Inside corner probing
- [ ] Calibration (a.k.a. probe / end mill size measurement, probe speeds)
- [ ] Angle measuring.
- [X] Z probing
- [x] Selectable work coordinate system for X & Y probing (G43.1 doesn't work or make sense for these).
Wicked. I guess we're heading towards a tabbed controller due to all the new features? Could you make it in "workspaces" so we can have eg. DRO, visualizer, file control, overrides in one then another workspace for macros, probing, settings, etc? All user controlled of course ;)
On Sep 4, 2017 5:05 PM, "Meph1" [email protected] wrote:
That looks so good and promissing!!!!
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Fantastic
On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Julius [email protected] wrote:
Wicked. I guess we're heading towards a tabbed controller due to all the new features? Could you make it in "workspaces" so we can have eg. DRO, visualizer, file control, overrides in one then another workspace for macros, probing, settings, etc? All user controlled of course ;)
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I updated the existing Z probe button tonight. Since the X/Y probing didn't work I replaced that setting with a retract field. There's also a surprise between the initial probe and the final retract that I won't spoil. :)
Here are a couple of thoughts on the probe function.
The current version of the probe function does not display the current units, which can be very confusing. The two most common uses of the probe (at least for me) are
- Resetting the z offset after a tool change, and
- setting the xyz zero values for a new workpiece. For both of these, I use a touchplate with known xyz thickness values that sits directly on the wasteboard of the machine or fits over the corner of the workpiece. I think this is what many/most people do when they get sick of using a piece of thin paper and a calculator. What would be most helpful (to me) is to have a helper that would allow me to position the tool at a reasonable distance from the surface(s) of the touchplate and then have the machine automatically set the relevant zero values for me. The display could look similar to the current one, with an option to set a single axis value only (typically z) or all axes at once, and an option to choose the target WCS offset (54-59). [It might also be necessary to allow separate thickness and distance/direction settings for x,y, and z.] The function could then use the G38.2 and G10L20 commands. Thanks for your consideration.
Keep in mind to do the x/y properly you cannot use an endmill. You'd have to get a piece of known diameter turned steel rod and then swap again for your Z
On Sep 9, 2017 11:43 AM, "groberts22" [email protected] wrote:
Here are a couple of thoughts on the probe function.
The current version of the probe function does not display the current units, which can be very confusing. The two most common uses of the probe (at least for me) are
- Resetting the z offset after a tool change, and
- setting the xyz zero values for a new workpiece. For both of these, I use a touchplate with known xyz thickness values that sits directly on the wasteboard of the machine or fits over the corner of the workpiece. I think this is what many/most people do when they get sick of using a piece of thin paper and a calculator. What would be most helpful (to me) is to have a helper that would allow me to position the tool at a reasonable distance from the surface(s) of the touchplate and then have the machine automatically set the relevant zero values for me. The display could look similar to the current one, with an option to set a single axis value only (typically z) or all axes at once, and an option to choose the target WCS offset (54-59). [It might also be necessary to allow separate thickness and distance/direction settings for x,y, and z.] The function could then use the G38.2 and G10L20 commands. Thanks for your consideration.
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True, although I have found in practice that if I lower the probe as far as possible below the horizontal surface of the touch plate and make sure the bit is properly rotated I get reasonable accuracy and repeatability.
Why would you have to do that? You absolutely can use the end mill. People do it all the time
On Sep 9, 2017 11:27 AM, "Julius" [email protected] wrote:
Keep in mind to do the x/y properly you cannot use an endmill. You'd have to get a piece of known diameter turned steel rod and then swap again for your Z
On Sep 9, 2017 11:43 AM, "groberts22" [email protected] wrote:
Here are a couple of thoughts on the probe function.
The current version of the probe function does not display the current units, which can be very confusing. The two most common uses of the probe (at least for me) are
- Resetting the z offset after a tool change, and
- setting the xyz zero values for a new workpiece. For both of these, I use a touchplate with known xyz thickness values that sits directly on the wasteboard of the machine or fits over the corner of the workpiece. I think this is what many/most people do when they get sick of using a piece of thin paper and a calculator. What would be most helpful (to me) is to have a helper that would allow me to position the tool at a reasonable distance from the surface(s) of the touchplate and then have the machine automatically set the relevant zero values for me. The display could look similar to the current one, with an option to set a single axis value only (typically z) or all axes at once, and an option to choose the target WCS offset (54-59). [It might also be necessary to allow separate thickness and distance/direction settings for x,y, and z.] The function could then use the G38.2 and G10L20 commands. Thanks for your consideration.
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Forgot to add, I was using it before X/Y was removed from the probing in the nighties.
Forgot to add, I was using it before X/Y was removed from the probing in the nighties.
Depends what accuracy you need, but you'd have to rotate the flute for each axis you probe. Good luck with 0 flutes and all that. A 4 flute would be easy enough to do though within reason. Still, nothing will repeat better then a solid cylinder.
On Sep 10, 2017 9:23 AM, "aforww" [email protected] wrote:
Why would you have to do that? You absolutely can use the end mill. People do it all the time
On Sep 9, 2017 11:27 AM, "Julius" [email protected] wrote:
Keep in mind to do the x/y properly you cannot use an endmill. You'd have to get a piece of known diameter turned steel rod and then swap again for your Z
On Sep 9, 2017 11:43 AM, "groberts22" [email protected] wrote:
Here are a couple of thoughts on the probe function.
The current version of the probe function does not display the current units, which can be very confusing. The two most common uses of the probe (at least for me) are
- Resetting the z offset after a tool change, and
- setting the xyz zero values for a new workpiece. For both of these, I use a touchplate with known xyz thickness values that sits directly on the wasteboard of the machine or fits over the corner of the workpiece. I think this is what many/most people do when they get sick of using a piece of thin paper and a calculator. What would be most helpful (to me) is to have a helper that would allow me to position the tool at a reasonable distance from the surface(s) of the touchplate and then have the machine automatically set the relevant zero values for me. The display could look similar to the current one, with an option to set a single axis value only (typically z) or all axes at once, and an option to choose the target WCS offset (54-59). [It might also be necessary to allow separate thickness and distance/direction settings for x,y, and z.] The function could then use the G38.2 and G10L20 commands. Thanks for your consideration.
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Ah. Yea I can agree with that. I did it with a single O flute but had to rotate it to catch the leading outside edge. Still faster than trying to get it dead on by eye and a feeler gauge lol.
On Sep 10, 2017 7:26 AM, "Julius" [email protected] wrote:
Depends what accuracy you need, but you'd have to rotate the flute for each axis you probe. Good luck with 0 flutes and all that. A 4 flute would be easy enough to do though within reason. Still, nothing will repeat better then a solid cylinder.
On Sep 10, 2017 9:23 AM, "aforww" [email protected] wrote:
Why would you have to do that? You absolutely can use the end mill. People do it all the time
On Sep 9, 2017 11:27 AM, "Julius" [email protected] wrote:
Keep in mind to do the x/y properly you cannot use an endmill. You'd have to get a piece of known diameter turned steel rod and then swap again for your Z
On Sep 9, 2017 11:43 AM, "groberts22" [email protected] wrote:
Here are a couple of thoughts on the probe function.
The current version of the probe function does not display the current units, which can be very confusing. The two most common uses of the probe (at least for me) are
- Resetting the z offset after a tool change, and
- setting the xyz zero values for a new workpiece. For both of these, I use a touchplate with known xyz thickness values that sits directly on the wasteboard of the machine or fits over the corner of the workpiece. I think this is what many/most people do when they get sick of using a piece of thin paper and a calculator. What would be most helpful (to me) is to have a helper that would allow me to position the tool at a reasonable distance from the surface(s) of the touchplate and then have the machine automatically set the relevant zero values for me. The display could look similar to the current one, with an option to set a single axis value only (typically z) or all axes at once, and an option to choose the target WCS offset (54-59). [It might also be necessary to allow separate thickness and distance/direction settings for x,y, and z.] The function could then use the G38.2 and G10L20 commands. Thanks for your consideration.
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Can you get the macros and UI from this fellow open source sender? I'm trying it out tonight while we figure out the platform issues. It also has keyboard jogging!
https://www.sourcerabbit.com/GCode-Sender/
I've been spending a lot of time working on re-designing the advanced probe page. My first attempt pretty much copied the design in Mach4, but I wasn't happy with how it fit in UGP. Back at the drawing board I decided to make a fully 3D representation of the settings, and I'm really happy with how it came out. I can add additional tabs for some of the remaining advanced probe tabs.
looks very good, you think would be possible to come up with better visual layout design, similar to match or source rabit?
If you used the auto update feature you might need to select a new module. I moved the probe features to a separate one.
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 8:30 AM Meph1 [email protected] wrote:
@winder https://github.com/winder i dont see probing window now, only auto level?
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@Radiu could you make some specific suggestions? For this iteration I decided against modal dialogs like rabbit and static dialogs like Mach4, opting for a more dynamic representation in the visualizer.
@winder i have the autoupdate feature installed, just see there the auto level other probes i dont see,have looked arround and nothing
@vMeph The probe module might not be installed, is it listed under "Available Plugins"?
Sourceforge seems to be having some trouble the last couple days https://sourceforge.net/projects/ugs-update-center/files/
what i mean is more professional graphic design
something like this and more friendly use
apart from it is just a sugestion, your work is the best thanks alot for all tthe work that you provide to us
that looks cool im not good on designs but here is a quick design i made based on that just to get a idea defenetly that the console space area, would be the perfect place to implemente interactive menus with some friendly and easy to folow structures and make UGS look a clean and modern design @winder any ideas?
Hi will, thanks for your very good program, i like and use a lot the probing module, the only problem that i have is when doing the x and y probing, for some reason, it does the x good but when it position the machine to seek the y, it never goes far enough to the right (trying to find the lower left zero) to be able to touch the plate. is there soming that i miss. thanks Mike
