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CLDR-14782 Better root abbreviated names for Islamic calendar months
CLDR-14782
- [x] This PR completes the ticket.
Better root names for Islamic calendar months. Note that these also change the spaces in 4 of the names from regular space to narrow no-break space U+202F (better layout behavior).
Some concerns are that this will be a breaking change for some parsing implementations, and questions from some reviewers as to whether the original issue warrants a change and the proposed abbreviations are an improvement:
From Arabic speaker point of view, the old names make more sense and more understandable than the new names. And I am not seeing anything offensive in the old names.
From Arabic speaker point of view, the old names make more sense and more understandable than the new names. And I am not seeing anything offensive in the old names.
The issue was not that the names were offensive to Arabic speakers or to Muslims; it was that use of the name "Ram" in particular was reported as offensive to other users (apparently Hindus in this case) who saw it on the phone of someone using the Islamic calendar in English. And it was reported that this sort of thing was leading to beatings.
Some concerns are that this will be a breaking change for some parsing implementations,
Neither set of abbreviations are things that users are likely to type into something that would parse input text; so I guess the only issue is parsing text that was previously generated from the earlier names?
Well, I guess I will hold off merging this until we have more discussion.
Neither set of abbreviations are things that users are likely to type into something that would parse input text; so I guess the only issue is parsing text that was previously generated from the earlier names?
similar to the "Sept" vs "Sept." issue.
More completely: CLDR doesn't guarantee stability of the months/days, and especially the abbreviations. So people shouldn't depend on that for parsing stability. There is a ticket to improve support for parsing in the future.
Mark
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:20 AM Steven R. Loomis @.***> wrote:
Neither set of abbreviations are things that users are likely to type into something that would parse input text; so I guess the only issue is parsing text that was previously generated from the earlier names?
similar to the "Sept" vs "Sept." issue.
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Per TC meeting, may decide to just change abbreviated name for Ramadan, e.g. to Rmdn (transliteration of Arabic would be “Rmdan”). But wait two weeks for further investigation/discussion.