Not Working on 11.4

[emagaliff]

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The script is not working on 11.4 for all format - I ran it with the instructions and format I want, but it will not change. Specifically "EEE d MMM HH:mm" does not seem to be applying to the menu bar. It refreshes but the format remains the same. I also tried removing the day (d) and that seemed to work fine, but I cannot get the day before the month.

I tried deleting the .plist file as recommended in the previous issue and still no luck.

Note: Using US localization. Any way to get it to work?

[tech-otaku]

@emagaliff

On a machine running 11.4 with System Preferences > Language & Region > General > Region set to United States I ran through all the valid formats and the results are as expected. The only difference from the examples in the README being the date and month were reversed: Jul 26 as opposed to 26 Jul.

Using the format "EEE d MMM HH:mm" with the script, the menu bar displays Mon Jul 26 15:56. What does yours display?

From the command line defaults read com.apple.menuextra.clock.plist shows these key/value pairs...

    DateFormat = "EEE MMM d  H:mm";
    FlashDateSeparators = 0;
    IsAnalog = 0;
    Show24Hour = 1;
    ShowAMPM = 0;
    ShowDayOfMonth = 1;
    ShowDayOfWeek = 1;
    ShowSeconds = 0;

...and defaults read .GlobalPreferences AppleICUForce12HourTime reports...

The domain/default pair of (.GlobalPreferences, AppleICUForce12HourTime) does not exist

This is what I'd expect. What are the key/value pairs on your machine?

You also mention that ...I cannot get the day before the month. To be clear, by day do you mean Mon or 26? If it's the latter, that's due to US localisation.

Regards, Steve.

[emagaliff]

You also mention that ...I cannot get the day before the month. To be clear, by day do you mean Mon or 26? If it's the latter, that's due to US localisation.

So the localization setting in MacOS overrides any custom formats set for the menu bar? That seems rather unintuitive (on Apple's part). I wonder if there's a way to modify the actual system localization files / settings to change the region to display the format desired.

[tech-otaku]

So the localization setting in MacOS overrides any custom formats set for the menu bar?

Pretty much, yes. The DateFormat key determines what's included in the menu bar clock, but the Region setting in System Preferences determines how it's displayed. I use EEE d MMM HH:mm, but the display is different depending on the region:

Region	Display
United Kingdom	Fri 30 Jul 13:17
United States	Fri Jul 30 13:17
France	Fri 30 Jul at 13:17
Germany	Fri 30. Jul 13:17
Czechia	Fri 30. 7. 13:17

There are applications that allow the menu bar clock to be customised, but never having used them I can't vouch for their effectiveness.

Regards, Steve.